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Old Fri Dec 30, 2011, 10:14pm
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using the hand behind the head associated with the commonly known charge.
Since the Team Control signal was implemented, I haven't seen that used in a while (at least in these parts).......Not taking away from its being an approved signal, just don't see it anymore.
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The case doesn't contain the words player control.
Because it's a double foul. If the other official didn't call a block, then it would have been a player control foul.
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Since the Team Control signal was implemented, I haven't seen that used in a while.
Many officials around here will use the team control foul signal, and only the team control foul signal, for a player control charging foul. By the manual, it's probably incorrect, but it seems to be an "accepted", but not "approved", alternative around here.
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Since the Team Control signal was implemented, I haven't seen that used in a while (at least in these parts).......Not taking away from its being an approved signal, just don't see it anymore.

Player control and Team Control signals are the same behind-the-head signal in Ohio.
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Player control and Team Control signals are the same behind-the-head signal in Ohio.
So, an offensive player, without the ball, sets an illegal screen, and the official comes up with a behind-the-head signal?
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The way they want it is the normal foul signal then come down to the behind the head signal.
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The way they want it is the normal foul signal then come down to the behind the head signal.
We assume by normal foul signal you mean a fist in the air. And you are instructed to use the hand behind the head for all fouls on the offense?
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Yes. The PC signal is the TC signal in Ohio. The TC signal in the NFHS manual does not exist here.
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The PC signal is the TC signal in Ohio. The TC signal in the NFHS manual does not exist here.
Thanks. I didn't know that Ohio was in The Matrix.
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This is like seeing magnesium being dumped in a swimming pool.
Did you mean to say Sodium, or Potassium?
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Many officials around here will use the team control foul signal, and only the team control foul signal, for a player control charging foul. By the manual, it's probably incorrect, but it seems to be an "accepted", but not "approved", alternative around here.
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We assume by normal foul signal you mean a fist in the air.
Here in my little corner of Connecticut, the same guys that use the team control foul signal, and only the team control foul signal, for a player control charging foul, will also not usually precede this signal with a "stop the clock" fist.
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Yes. The PC signal is the TC signal in Ohio. The TC signal in the NFHS manual does not exist here.
This an exception mandated by the state, or your state publishes its own rule book?

It actually makes perfect sense. Why have two separate signals? So, in Ohio it doesn't matter whether he released the pass before the crash or not.
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Old Sat Dec 31, 2011, 03:50pm
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Here in my little corner of Connecticut, the same guys that use the team control foul signal, and only the team control foul signal, for a player control charging foul, will also not usually precede this signal with a "stop the clock" fist.
I actually do the same thing most of the time, if the call is obvious to me, though I know this is not totally correct. If I go up with the fist first, then go to the PC signal, it gives me time to mentally flip a coin.
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Just a state mandate. They thought using the new signal would confuse people.
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