From IAABO Dec. 2011 Newsletter:

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Bob:

2011-12 NFHS Basketball Rules R9-S9-A1:
"A player shall not be the first to touch the ball after it has been in player and team control in the frontcourt, if he/she or a teammate last touched or was touched by the ball in the frontcourt before it went to the backcourt."

The change in red was not mentioned in the the Editorial Changes made to the NFHS Rules for 2011-12.

MTD, Sr.

The change isn't what they meant, though.

A1, from the BC, passes the ball to A2, standing in the FC. A2 muffs the pass, and the ball rolls to the BC where it's first touched by A1.

Doesn't meet the letter of the new wording, but it's still a violation.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The change isn't what they meant, though.

A1, from the BC, passes the ball to A2, standing in the FC. A2 muffs the pass, and the ball rolls to the BC where it's first touched by A1.

Doesn't meet the letter of the new wording, but it's still a violation.

Bob:

That may be so, but the problem is that the rule as written (see my post above) does not support "the ruling" that we have been told. I started composing a letter to Hank Zaborniak in early December about this problem but put it aside for other things and now I intend to finish it and send it off to him this week.

MTD, Sr.

MTD, Sr/

[Adam]

The problem is, the NFHS changed the rule in order to try to make it stay the same. It didn't work, so they gave us the interps through the power point that some people have seen.

They need to either change it back (and perhaps go with scrapper's suggestion and simply change the penalties for fouls by the throw-in team) or acknowledge the rule has changed and roll with it. As it is now, the rule runs counter to their expressed intent.

[tjones1]

From the Pre-Season Guide:

Play 1: A1 has the ball fro a throw-in at the division line. Team B is in the bonus. Before the ball is released, A3 is whistled for an illegal screen on B3.

Ruling 1: The foul on A3 is a team-control foul. Team B will receive the ball spot closed to where the foul occurred. No free throws will be attempted.

Why do they tell us the foul occurred before the ball is released?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by tjones1

From the Pre-Season Guide:

Play 1: A1 has the ball fro a throw-in at the division line. Team B is in the bonus. Before the ball is released, A3 is whistled for an illegal screen on B3.

Ruling 1: The foul on A3 is a team-control foul. Team B will receive the ball spot closed to where the foul occurred. No free throws will be attempted.

Why do they tell us the foul occurred before the ball is released?

Not necessary, just reinforces that it is a team control foul while the ball is still in the thrower's hands.

[Rich]

We all know what they wanted to change - it's easy for me to call it that way and not give a damn about what's written in the book. Why not everyone else?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

it's easy for me to call it that way and not give a damn about what's written in the book. Why not everyone else?

I don't mean to be a jerk, but. . . because it's not written in the book. The rules are what's in the book. The rules are not made up of completely contradictory statements made in an addendum, IMHO.

It's not like what happened in the NCAA, with the elbow rule. The rules committee actually got together, voted on and passed a new rule; but the rule couldn't be added to the book because the change was instituted between printings. In this case, they made everyone aware of the change and told us that it actually would be in the book in the next year.

In the NFHS case, they got together, voted and passed a new rule. They included it in the book. Then without getting together and voting, they told us that the rule actually meant something very different, which is not included in the book.

In most cases, we're paid to enforce what's written in the book. So it would be nice if our rules were actually in our book.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

A1, from the BC, passes the ball to A2, standing in the FC. A2 muffs the pass, and the ball rolls to the BC where it's first touched by A1.

Doesn't meet the letter of the new wording, but it's still a violation.

Isn't that covered in 9-9-2?