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Old Wed Dec 28, 2011, 12:48am
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Right, we NEVER see out of our primary. Ever! I forgot.
OK, do me a favor. Watch the video again. Tell me who's going to see this travel on the court and THEN call it in front of the trail who's standing right there.

I'm the L, I'm looking in the paint. I'm the T, that's WAY over on the other side of the court and I'm not looking there.

I'm not saying that there aren't places where an official that's further away isn't going to get a travel (in the post is a great example), but this isn't it.
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Old Wed Dec 28, 2011, 12:50am
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OK, do me a favor. Watch the video again. Tell me who's going to see this travel on the court and THEN call it in front of the trail who's standing right there.

I'm the L, I'm looking in the paint. I'm the T, that's WAY over on the other side of the court and I'm not looking there.

I'm not saying that there aren't places where an official that's further away isn't going to get a travel (in the post is a great example), but this isn't it.
Lets say position isnt an issue, you see this and you pass?
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Old Wed Dec 28, 2011, 01:26am
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Lets say position isnt an issue, you see this and you pass?
If it's in a secondary area, sure, I'll get it. For example, if I'm the T and this is in the L's primary, I'll assume he's blocked from seeing the feet or concentrating on contact up high.

But if I'm 50 feet away and my partner is about 8, I'm going to let him call it or not call it (unless there's a good reason he'd miss it). It's bad for the crew to miss calls, but it can be just as bad (if not worse) to get one that throws a partner under the bus.
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Old Wed Dec 28, 2011, 01:36am
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but it can be just as bad (if not worse) to get one that throws a partner under the bus.
This is the part that some seem unable to grasp.
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Old Wed Dec 28, 2011, 01:43am
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This is the part that some seem unable to grasp.
Most calls where a partner helps, I'm going to say "thank you." But there are some that do nothing but throw me under the bus and the person jumping in should know better. Exhibit 1 - the video in the OP.
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Old Wed Dec 28, 2011, 04:37am
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Most calls where a partner helps, I'm going to say "thank you." But there are some that do nothing but throw me under the bus and the person jumping in should know better. Exhibit 1 - the video in the OP.
Agree....the new lead in the OP was absolutely 100% wrong. He would have been wrong even if he were the new trail.

But the continuing discussion was not about the sit. in the OP. It was a what-if....what if the time was much, much more and not just barely 5 seconds since the ball fell through the basket...what if the clock ran down 10+ seconds (or maybe 20+ seconds) with the thrower standing OOB with the ball. The question was about what point should/will another official step in and either make the call or simply stop the clock to address the unusual delay? Are you saying there is no point at all? To the extreme just to illustrate the point, would you let it go 5 minutes without stepping in?
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