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[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I have no problem calling a foul or violation outside my PCA, if I pause for a second and believe my partner must have been straightlined to miss it. I also have no problem with my partner doing the same, and I make that clear during pre-game.

However, when it comes to throw-ins, if I'm not administering, I'm disengaging from that endline/sideline, and focusing in-bounds. Some things are best to be trusted to your partner.

If I call a violation outside of my primary, I made a mistake.

If I'm calling a foul outside of my primary, I'm going to try to be late and needed. By needed, I mean the game could degenerate quickly if it goes uncalled.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If I call a violation outside of my primary, I made a mistake.

If I'm calling a foul outside of my primary, I'm going to try to be late and needed. By needed, I mean the game could degenerate quickly if it goes uncalled.

Agreed...if it is an "OH MY GOD!!" call, then go in there and make the call.

5 second throw-in violation does not fit that criteria.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If I call a violation outside of my primary, I made a mistake.

If I'm calling a foul outside of my primary, I'm going to try to be late and needed. By needed, I mean the game could degenerate quickly if it goes uncalled.

So lets say you are NOT the trail here and see this

Duke travel. How many steps? I count 12! - YouTube

You would just say oh well, I'll let it go? I know I would not. I would call it and if my partner tries to say a peep that I shouldn't have I would tell him to tighten up and do his f'ing job. Because this is pretty obvious.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by deecee

So lets say you are NOT the trail here and see this

Duke travel. How many steps? I count 12! - YouTube

You would just say oh well, I'll let it go? I know I would not. I would call it and if my partner tries to say a peep that I shouldn't have I would tell him to tighten up and do his f'ing job. Because this is pretty obvious.

Why are you looking at the ball? In 3-person, in a closely guarded situation like this, the C is looking at competitive matchups on his side of the floor and the L is looking in the paint. The *only* official that should see this is the T.

Any "get" of this by either of the other two officials, here, is ball watching.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Why are you looking at the ball? In 3-person, in a closely guarded situation like this, the C is looking at competitive matchups on his side of the floor and the L is looking in the paint. The *only* official that should see this is the T.

Any "get" of this by either of the other two officials, here, is ball watching.

Right, we NEVER see out of our primary. Ever! I forgot.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by deecee

Right, we NEVER see out of our primary. Ever! I forgot.

OK, do me a favor. Watch the video again. Tell me who's going to see this travel on the court and THEN call it in front of the trail who's standing right there.

I'm the L, I'm looking in the paint. I'm the T, that's WAY over on the other side of the court and I'm not looking there.

I'm not saying that there aren't places where an official that's further away isn't going to get a travel (in the post is a great example), but this isn't it.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

OK, do me a favor. Watch the video again. Tell me who's going to see this travel on the court and THEN call it in front of the trail who's standing right there.

I'm the L, I'm looking in the paint. I'm the T, that's WAY over on the other side of the court and I'm not looking there.

I'm not saying that there aren't places where an official that's further away isn't going to get a travel (in the post is a great example), but this isn't it.

Lets say position isnt an issue, you see this and you pass?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by deecee

Lets say position isnt an issue, you see this and you pass?

If it's in a secondary area, sure, I'll get it. For example, if I'm the T and this is in the L's primary, I'll assume he's blocked from seeing the feet or concentrating on contact up high.

But if I'm 50 feet away and my partner is about 8, I'm going to let him call it or not call it (unless there's a good reason he'd miss it). It's bad for the crew to miss calls, but it can be just as bad (if not worse) to get one that throws a partner under the bus.

[Adam]

There are some travels you get in your secondary, so I'll make that correction. There's still no way in hell I'm having a whistle on a five second violation outside of my primary.