Stolen from YouTube....

[Loudwhistle2]

[QUOTE=RichMSN;807779]I prefer, "Keep moving, keep moving" said in that player's direction.
I stole that from one of your posts about three -four years ago and it works well for me. How many times do other officials warn before calling three seconds? I usually give two verbal hints and then bust them at the varsity level.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Well, that's what we're taught to do where I live (in regards to 3 seconds). Advise, advise, advise, advise, then penalize.

4 warnings before calling?

Personally I tell guys to get out but not so noticeably that the coach actually notices that I'm doing it. But I will call 3 seconds if I have to, even without first warning. Depends on the situation.

In the video, the coach wasn't obnoxious in his approch and he presented a legitimate gripe (assuming that's what happened) so I would definitely keep an eye out for it.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

4 warnings before calling?

Personally I tell guys to get out but not so noticeably that the coach actually notices that I'm doing it. But I will call 3 seconds if I have to, even without first warning.

There it is. It looks like Roman Law reigns again.

If I see a legitimate attempt (and execution) to get out of the lane, I'll hold that call. If I see no attempt, it's a violation. Sometimes, people only learn via consequences. I agree with the coach in this video; it's not our job to coach. Just make the call.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by bainsey

0:15 "If the kid's standing in the paint, you can't say 'you gotta (get out)' ... that's a three-second call."

If that's what happened, that's a legitimate beef, IMO.

You've never talked a kid out of the lane?

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

You've never talked a kid out of the lane?

I went to an IAABO camp one summer, and your butt got chewed bigtime if the clinicians heard you talking to kids in the lane. That said, outside of the jurisdiction where Bainsey officiates, get out talk was frequently used. Unofficially. IAABOwise.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

I went to an IAABO camp one summer, and your butt got chewed bigtime if the clinicians heard you talking to kids in the lane. That said, outside of the jurisdiction where Bainsey officiates, get out talk was frequently used. Unofficially. IAABOwise.

Stupidity. I guess you aren't suppose to talk to kids about hands out front or pushing in the low post either.

Just another reason I'm glad I live in an IAABO-free world.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

2:19 If that coach got a T earlier, why is he still on his feet? Different rules in New York, I assume.

I could be wrong, but I believe NY uses modified NCAA rules rather than NFHS rules.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I could be wrong, but I believe NY uses modified NCAA rules rather than NFHS rules.

Or could he be talking about another game?

Peace

[26 Year Gap]

Quite honestly, I have a greater problem with partners who chew on me for calling 3 seconds AFTER I HAVE TOLD THE PLAYER TO LEAVE THE PAINT QUITE DISTINCTLY than I do with guys telling players to get out.

[Rich]

Last night I had a team whose center just couldn't help herself -- she committed 2 quick fouls and her coach yanked her. He crawled up my butt over the second foul (which, BTW, was a no brainer on-the-back on a rebound foul that displaced the player with position), calling it a touch foul and saying that "you call that touch foul at that end and our players have forearms all over them all the time." By that point (we were late in the first quarter) we had already called 7 fouls against the visiting team and the 2 on the center were the only fouls against his team in the game (the coaches do it, why can't I? -- no I didn't say it to him, although I was *sorely* tempted). He really crawled up my butt to the point where I finally had to tell him that I heard him and that I had heard enough.

The girl came back in during the second quarter and promptly picked up her third foul and came out.

She came back in midway through the third quarter and promptly picked up her fourth when she contested a shot she had no business contesting. Out she went.

She came back in with 6 minutes left in the game and fouled out 2 a few trips later when she committed a foul almost 80 feet from the basket.

She never adjusted her style (whatever it was) and probably played less than 8 minutes of the game. Her team still won handily.

[Lcubed48]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I can't tell you how much I enjoyed this. I was laughing out loud. Not sure if anyone's ever posted this, so I will here:

I enjoyed the ending comment - "you got outplayed, don't blame the referees".

[Tio]

We probably shouldn't play this video at new official training classes.