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Old Fri Dec 23, 2011, 02:05am
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I can't tell you how much I enjoyed this. I was laughing out loud. Not sure if anyone's ever posted this, so I will here:

New York High School Basketball Coaches Chew The Ref's Ass - YouTube
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Old Fri Dec 23, 2011, 02:41am
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My fantasy answer to one of the lines:

"It's the first time in 22 years of coaching...."

"No it isn't."

I whacked a coach during a Christmas tournament two years ago and he told me, "That's only my third technical in 14 years." When I got together with a group of officials at the watering hole afterwards, there were 6 technicals in the last 5 years *at my table*.

So anytime a coach uses a line like that, I assume they're lying or incredibly forgetful.
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Old Fri Dec 23, 2011, 09:20am
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... "I didn't say anything."
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Old Fri Dec 23, 2011, 09:31am
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My fantasy answer to one of the lines:

"It's the first time in 22 years of coaching...."

"No it isn't."

I whacked a coach during a Christmas tournament two years ago and he told me, "That's only my third technical in 14 years." When I got together with a group of officials at the watering hole afterwards, there were 6 technicals in the last 5 years *at my table*.

So anytime a coach uses a line like that, I assume they're lying or incredibly forgetful.
One season I gave a notoriously a-hole coach a T in the first 4 minutes of the first game of the season. I didn't have him again for another 7-8 weeks. He runs into me in the hallway before the game and says "that's the only T I have had all season" and to which I responded (in my early years before I had a filter) "I doubt that".

Needless to say, that evening he became the only coach I ever tossed by giving back-to-back T's. And it occurred while his team was up by 40 points in the 3rd quarter during a dead ball in which his team was about to shoot 2 free throws following an intentional foul by the opposing team.
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Old Fri Dec 23, 2011, 09:58am
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I can't tell you how much I enjoyed this. I was laughing out loud. Not sure if anyone's ever posted this, so I will here:

New York High School Basketball Coaches Chew The Ref's *** - YouTube

Ha Ha ha !! Excellent Rich, thanks for the Christmas present!
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Great stuff! My thoughts...

0:23 "But even if you're bobbling or moving with the ball, that's a travel! .... You have to get possession first? I've never heard that."

Really? The first thing we were taught in ref school was the concept of CONTROL, and how so many things are affected by it.

1:09 Did the official have his hands up for a whack?

1:44 "There's a flow to this game!"

Not if the rules are broken.

2:19 If that coach got a T earlier, why is he still on his feet? Different rules in New York, I assume.

And one for the coach...

0:15 "If the kid's standing in the paint, you can't say 'you gotta (get out)' ... that's a three-second call."

If that's what happened, that's a legitimate beef, IMO.
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Last night I had a team whose center just couldn't help herself -- she committed 2 quick fouls and her coach yanked her. He crawled up my butt over the second foul (which, BTW, was a no brainer on-the-back on a rebound foul that displaced the player with position), calling it a touch foul and saying that "you call that touch foul at that end and our players have forearms all over them all the time." By that point (we were late in the first quarter) we had already called 7 fouls against the visiting team and the 2 on the center were the only fouls against his team in the game (the coaches do it, why can't I? -- no I didn't say it to him, although I was *sorely* tempted). He really crawled up my butt to the point where I finally had to tell him that I heard him and that I had heard enough.

The girl came back in during the second quarter and promptly picked up her third foul and came out.

She came back in midway through the third quarter and promptly picked up her fourth when she contested a shot she had no business contesting. Out she went.

She came back in with 6 minutes left in the game and fouled out 2 a few trips later when she committed a foul almost 80 feet from the basket.

She never adjusted her style (whatever it was) and probably played less than 8 minutes of the game. Her team still won handily.
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And one for the coach...

0:15 "If the kid's standing in the paint, you can't say 'you gotta (get out)' ... that's a three-second call."

If that's what happened, that's a legitimate beef, IMO.
Well, that's what we're taught to do where I live (in regards to 3 seconds). Advise, advise, advise, advise, then penalize.
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Well, that's what we're taught to do where I live (in regards to 3 seconds). Advise, advise, advise, advise, then penalize.
I prefer, "Keep moving, keep moving" said in that player's direction. That doesn't imply that someone's in there too long at the moment and could be just vague enough to be a banana for the HM.

I had a 3-second violation in my first game and I don't think I've had one in a game since. I've had plenty of people yell it, usually when the ball is bouncing on the rim after a shot attempt.
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Well, that's what we're taught to do where I live (in regards to 3 seconds). Advise, advise, advise, advise, then penalize.
4 warnings before calling?

Personally I tell guys to get out but not so noticeably that the coach actually notices that I'm doing it. But I will call 3 seconds if I have to, even without first warning. Depends on the situation.

In the video, the coach wasn't obnoxious in his approch and he presented a legitimate gripe (assuming that's what happened) so I would definitely keep an eye out for it.
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4 warnings before calling?

Personally I tell guys to get out but not so noticeably that the coach actually notices that I'm doing it. But I will call 3 seconds if I have to, even without first warning.
There it is. It looks like Roman Law reigns again.

If I see a legitimate attempt (and execution) to get out of the lane, I'll hold that call. If I see no attempt, it's a violation. Sometimes, people only learn via consequences. I agree with the coach in this video; it's not our job to coach. Just make the call.
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