Scoring Error at End of Game (help with situation)

[Huntin' Ref]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

...and yet you still didn't signal a "2" when you were instructed to do so by your Roman advisor.

I bet you wished you had after this particular game.

No, I did do it this game. I was just always told not to do it in the past so I have refrained. Then last year in a MNSHSL playoff game I didn't do it and it was part of my observation report so I did it last night. I think it is a helpful mechanic as long as the observers agree.......

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Huntin' Ref

No, I did do it this game. I was just always told not to do it in the past so I have refrained. Then last year in a MNSHSL playoff game I didn't do it and it was part of my observation report so I did it last night. I think it is a helpful mechanic as long as the observers agree.......

...and the table crew actually observes you.

[CoachNRef]

is it possible to over-communicate with the table in these type sits?

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by CoachNRef

is it possible to over-communicate with the table in these type sits?

NO.


I'm not sure why some have said they would be "discreet" in holding two fingers up for the table to see. You want to make sure the table, the players, the coaches, the fans, the video, and your assignor who will watch the game later on video (after the coach calls to complain that "everyone thought it was a 3") sees that it is a two-point shot.

This situation calls for ANYTHING but being discreet.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

I believe your official scorer could've been of some help in this instance too.I'm going to look for one of three things in this situation-
A.Hands in the air noting a made 3 point shot.
B.Two Fingers at the waist.
C.No signal given (assume a two point basket)

In this case I would've seen the point to the ground mechanic from the trail and once the ball goes through the net said "2,2" so that the clock operator,visiting scorekeeper,and myself are on the same page.This one is tough because it is correctable but there was no dead ball prior to the go ahead basket.If I had a dead ball between shots then I would ask "Hey ____________, just to clarify was the last shot for _______ a 2 or 3? Answer in this case would be a two, we'd make the adjustment on the board and finish the game out.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

I believe your official scorer could've been of some help in this instance too.I'm going to look for one of three things in this situation-
A.Hands in the air noting a made 3 point shot.
B.Two Fingers at the waist.
C.No signal given (assume a two point basket)

In this case I would've seen the point to the ground mechanic from the trail and once the ball goes through the net said "2,2" so that the clock operator,visiting scorekeeper,and myself are on the same page.This one is tough because it is correctable but there was no dead ball prior to the go ahead basket.If I had a dead ball between shots then I would ask "Hey ____________, just to clarify was the last shot for _______ a 2 or 3? Answer in this case would be a two, we'd make the adjustment on the board and finish the game out.

Another good table mechanic would be for the timer/scoreboard & scorer to watch the floor officials, instead of ball/player watching, for the field goal signal if the shot is questionable.

Was the scorer's table court level or a couple of rows up in the stands?

[Huntin' Ref]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

...and the table crew actually observes you.

No, not the table crew. State assigned personnel.