The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Baseball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 30, 2010, 09:10am
Eschew obfuscation.
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: IL
Posts: 304
Error Scoring Question

My mom is the head softball coach at the local high school, and she sent me this the email the other day. It is whether or not the run should be scored as earned or unearned. If anyone could help me out with giving her an answer back I would greatly appreciate it.

Quote:
I have a question about an error.
In our game on Friday. Taylor was pitching - in the inning they scored their lone run -- this is what happened. My question is, should there be an error and/or earned or unearned run. We ended up winning the game, but the scoring was as an error on the 3rd baseman and an unearned run -- not sure I agree since the runner didn't advance.

Batter 1 on the inning -- Strike out (1 out)
Batter 2 on the inning -- walk (1 out, 1 on first)
Batter 3 on the inning -- base hit - advances runner to 2nd (1 out, 2 runners on --1st and 2nd)
Batter 4 on the inning -- walk (1 out, bases loaded)
Batter 5 on the inning -- Fly ball to SS - caught and then tried to double-up the runner on 3rd - first looked to 2nd base and then we were al yelling 3rd and she threw to 3rd and 3rd basemen dropped the ball - however no one advanced. Error?? If so - who? (2 outs, bases still loaded)
Batter 6 in the inning -- walk (run scores on the advancement of the walk - still 2 outs, bases loaded)
Batter 7 in the inning -- Strike out (3 outs)

Can you assume a double play and can you give an unearned run after a mis-hap double play that the runner didn't advance on??
Please shed what light you can on this. Obviously it is a big decision as far as the earned run and giving a player an error.
I appreciate your insight.
This is the email she sent me, so this is written in her words, not mine. So if anything is confusing, I'll have to ask her.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 30, 2010, 10:22am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 3,236
You cannot assume a DP.

No error.

Earned run.

Unless Taylor is old enough to be getting paid to play it really doesn't matter.
__________________
Rich Ives
Different does not equate to wrong
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 30, 2010, 11:42am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 7,620
A. It's softball. Who knows?

B. It's scoring. Who cares?
__________________
Cheers,
mb
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 30, 2010, 12:18pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 3,236
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbyron View Post
A. It's softball. Who knows?

?
Ask on a baseball board - get a baseball answer.
__________________
Rich Ives
Different does not equate to wrong
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 30, 2010, 03:38pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: CT
Posts: 2,439
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbyron View Post
A. It's softball. Who knows?

B. It's scoring. Who cares?
Agreed!
__________________
When in doubt, bang 'em out!
Ozzy
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 30, 2010, 04:15pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Glen Burnie, Md
Posts: 371
Can you post a pic of Mom?
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 30, 2010, 09:07pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 469
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich Ives View Post
You cannot assume a DP.

No error.

Earned run.

Unless Taylor is old enough to be getting paid to play it really doesn't matter.

You'd still have to score the error on the throw, would you not?

Earned run on a walk, and on a runner who was walked?

Agreed. Unless Taylor is making big $$ based on her ERA, does it really make a difference.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 30, 2010, 09:54pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 3,236
Quote:
Originally Posted by ManInBlue View Post
You'd still have to score the error on the throw, would you not?

Earned run on a walk, and on a runner who was walked?

Agreed. Unless Taylor is making big $$ based on her ERA, does it really make a difference.
No one advanced on the dropped ball on the DP attempt so no error.

I did say the run was earned.

Only one run scored.
__________________
Rich Ives
Different does not equate to wrong
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 30, 2010, 10:09pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 469
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich Ives View Post
I did say the run was earned.
Yes you did. I guess I was asking for clarification. I didn't think a runner that reached on a walk , or that was walked in to score would be an earned run.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Wed Mar 31, 2010, 07:16am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 3,236
Quote:
Originally Posted by ManInBlue View Post
Yes you did. I guess I was asking for clarification. I didn't think a runner that reached on a walk , or that was walked in to score would be an earned run.
If it's the pitcher's fault that the runnner's on base then (before 3 outs) it's an earned run. Walks are certainly the pitcher's fault.
__________________
Rich Ives
Different does not equate to wrong
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Wed Mar 31, 2010, 08:43am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,230
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeschmit View Post
My mom is the head softball coach at the local high school, and she sent me this the email the other day. It is whether or not the run should be scored as earned or unearned. If anyone could help me out with giving her an answer back I would greatly appreciate it.



This is the email she sent me, so this is written in her words, not mine. So if anything is confusing, I'll have to ask her.
Could consider it unearned by I doubt most would consider it so. It would have to be a horrible throw and the runner obviously out for me to consider it an unearned run

-Josh
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Scoring Question: Error vs. Hit Shmuelg Baseball 18 Fri Jul 17, 2009 04:21pm
Scoring Question: Error vs. Hit Shmuelg Softball 5 Thu Jul 16, 2009 07:27am
Resolving a scoring error BayStateRef Basketball 13 Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:44am
Error by the Scoring Table ColoradoT5 Basketball 11 Fri May 26, 2006 11:32am
Scoring error filinuk Basketball 4 Thu Feb 06, 2003 04:06pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:15am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1