Scoring Error at End of Game (help with situation)

[Huntin' Ref]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I'm curious about your mechanic. Is there anything else you do to distinguish a 2 from a 3, before and/or after the shot?

Well, I can honestly say I can't remember ever signalling "2" before, but in lieu of the circumstances, my instincts took over and felt compelled to make sure people in the gym knew I was looking at the play/foot because the foot was barely on the line. I know it isn't an approved signal, however I was criticised by an observer last year for not doing that in a similar situation so "when in Rome" came to play.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Huntin' Ref

Well, I can honestly say I can't remember ever signalling "2" before, but in lieu of the circumstances, my instincts took over and felt compelled to make sure people in the gym knew I was looking at the play/foot because the foot was barely on the line. I know it isn't an approved signal, however I was criticised by an observer last year for not doing that in a similar situation so "when in Rome" came to play.

I use the unapproved mechanic as well...yes, technically the lack of a three-point signal should tell the table it's a two-point shot, but it's a lot easier to just do the mechanic, and avoid the table being confused and possibly awarding what they think the shot was (I've seen it happen), and stop the game. Plus it shows everyone you were on top of the play.

*I also fully expect to see Billy tell us about how this is the mechanic in his little corner of Connecticut*

[Loudwhistle2]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I use the unapproved mechanic as well...yes, technically the lack of a three-point signal should tell the table it's a two-point shot, but it's a lot easier to just do the mechanic, and avoid the table being confused and possibly awarding what they think the shot was (I've seen it happen), and stop the game. Plus it shows everyone you were on top of the play.

Same up here in Alaska, just an accepted practice. (Underlined part is my favorite reason to use it.)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I also fully expect to see Billy tell us about how this is the mechanic in his little corner of Connecticut

Even better, an image.



And for once, it's not just in my little corner, it's for the whole state.

[bob jenkins]

I'm poinitng at the ground when the shot is taken (shows up on film that we didn't just make s*** up after the fact) AND showing two points to the table as we turn to go the other way.

[McMac]

I also point to the ground with two fingers and then if made show it to the table and say "two" loud enough for the table to hear. Authorized mechanic? Probably not, but it gets the point across that it is definitely a 2.

[jdw3018]

I agree with most everyone and would also signal 2, but as the OP noted, it would have been better if (and should have been) caught immediately by the officials. If the shot is close and the players react as if it was a 3, you have to get a glance at the scoreboard to make certain the score is recorded correctly.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I agree with most everyone and would also signal 2, but as the OP noted, it would have been better if (and should have been) caught immediately by the officials. If the shot is close and the players react as if it was a 3, you have to get a glance at the scoreboard to make certain the score is recorded correctly.

At least one of them should have looked.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Even better, an image.

Billy, I'm not seeing this in my book. This is an IAABO image?

FWIW, I've also been holding two fingers while looking at the table (not more than a second or two) after such a made shot. I honestly can't speak to whether it's approved or not.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Yes, it's from the IAABO manual.

[constable]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

Yes, it's from the IAABO manual.

Hmmm.. I can't find it in my manual...

page reference?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Billy, I'm not seeing this in my book. This is an IAABO image?

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

Yes, it's from the IAABO manual.

Originally Posted by constable

I can't find it in my manual, page reference?

As far as I know, this signal is only approved in Connecticut.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by constable

Hmmm.. I can't find it in my manual...

page reference?

Apologies. Still getting familiar with that manual in my new state. It's the image from the "Indicate Throw-In Spot" signal.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Huntin' Ref

I know it isn't an approved signal, however I was criticised by an observer last year for not doing that in a similar situation so "when in Rome" came to play.

...and yet you still didn't signal a "2" when you were instructed to do so by your Roman advisor.

I bet you wished you had after this particular game.

[Huntin' Ref]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

...and yet you still didn't signal a "2" when you were instructed to do so by your Roman advisor.

I bet you wished you had after this particular game.

No, I did do it this game. I was just always told not to do it in the past so I have refrained. Then last year in a MNSHSL playoff game I didn't do it and it was part of my observation report so I did it last night. I think it is a helpful mechanic as long as the observers agree.......