Scoring Error at End of Game (help with situation)

[Huntin' Ref]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I'm curious about your mechanic. Is there anything else you do to distinguish a 2 from a 3, before and/or after the shot?

Well, I can honestly say I can't remember ever signalling "2" before, but in lieu of the circumstances, my instincts took over and felt compelled to make sure people in the gym knew I was looking at the play/foot because the foot was barely on the line. I know it isn't an approved signal, however I was criticised by an observer last year for not doing that in a similar situation so "when in Rome" came to play.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Huntin' Ref

Well, I can honestly say I can't remember ever signalling "2" before, but in lieu of the circumstances, my instincts took over and felt compelled to make sure people in the gym knew I was looking at the play/foot because the foot was barely on the line. I know it isn't an approved signal, however I was criticised by an observer last year for not doing that in a similar situation so "when in Rome" came to play.

I use the unapproved mechanic as well...yes, technically the lack of a three-point signal should tell the table it's a two-point shot, but it's a lot easier to just do the mechanic, and avoid the table being confused and possibly awarding what they think the shot was (I've seen it happen), and stop the game. Plus it shows everyone you were on top of the play.

*I also fully expect to see Billy tell us about how this is the mechanic in his little corner of Connecticut*

[Loudwhistle2]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I use the unapproved mechanic as well...yes, technically the lack of a three-point signal should tell the table it's a two-point shot, but it's a lot easier to just do the mechanic, and avoid the table being confused and possibly awarding what they think the shot was (I've seen it happen), and stop the game. Plus it shows everyone you were on top of the play.

Same up here in Alaska, just an accepted practice. (Underlined part is my favorite reason to use it.)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I also fully expect to see Billy tell us about how this is the mechanic in his little corner of Connecticut

Even better, an image.



And for once, it's not just in my little corner, it's for the whole state.

[bob jenkins]

I'm poinitng at the ground when the shot is taken (shows up on film that we didn't just make s*** up after the fact) AND showing two points to the table as we turn to go the other way.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Even better, an image.

Billy, I'm not seeing this in my book. This is an IAABO image?

FWIW, I've also been holding two fingers while looking at the table (not more than a second or two) after such a made shot. I honestly can't speak to whether it's approved or not.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Huntin' Ref

I know it isn't an approved signal, however I was criticised by an observer last year for not doing that in a similar situation so "when in Rome" came to play.

...and yet you still didn't signal a "2" when you were instructed to do so by your Roman advisor.

I bet you wished you had after this particular game.

[Huntin' Ref]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

...and yet you still didn't signal a "2" when you were instructed to do so by your Roman advisor.

I bet you wished you had after this particular game.

No, I did do it this game. I was just always told not to do it in the past so I have refrained. Then last year in a MNSHSL playoff game I didn't do it and it was part of my observation report so I did it last night. I think it is a helpful mechanic as long as the observers agree.......

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Huntin' Ref

No, I did do it this game. I was just always told not to do it in the past so I have refrained. Then last year in a MNSHSL playoff game I didn't do it and it was part of my observation report so I did it last night. I think it is a helpful mechanic as long as the observers agree.......

...and the table crew actually observes you.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I'm curious about your mechanic. Is there anything else you do to distinguish a 2 from a 3, before and/or after the shot?

What I want to know is: If NO official signaled a 3-pt field goal then why in the world did the Scoreboard Operator add three points to the score?

MTD, Sr.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

What I want to know is: If NO official signaled a 3-pt field goal then why in the world did the Scoreboard Operator add three points to the score?

MTD, Sr.

...because chseagle wasn't in charge.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

What I want to know is: If NO official signaled a 3-pt field goal then why in the world did the Scoreboard Operator add three points to the score?

MTD, Sr.

How many timers do you know start the clock when they think the ball is first touched rather than when you chop in time?

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

How many timers do you know start the clock when they think the ball is first touched rather than when you chop in time?

Far too many timers are guilty of either starting the clock too early or about 1-2 seconds late.

[Scratch85]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

I look at the table and descretely put two fingers near my mid-section.

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

If there's a close play, I always show 2 if a foot is barely on the line.

Me too. If it (the 3) is in my primary, I will discreetly hold two fingers low like the old days.

Originally Posted by Huntin' Ref

Well, I can honestly say I can't remember ever signalling "2" before,

You must have missed the old days.

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

What I want to know is: If NO official signaled a 3-pt field goal then why in the world did the Scoreboard Operator add three points to the score?

MTD, Sr.

This is a trick question . . . right?

Sounds like everything was correct and others have already pointed out the correctable score issue.

And I have no intention of asking about a "corner of Connecticut" or how one goes about getting that pictogram image.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Scratch85

You must have missed the old days.

I was there.