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Old Fri Dec 09, 2011, 04:40pm
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Wow! Doormat?
Because the coach did his job & used the word "damn" while doing so?

Where do you guys live, in Utah?
And do you happen to do any urban ball?
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Old Sat Dec 10, 2011, 02:37am
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Wow! Doormat?
Because the coach did his job & used the word "damn" while doing so?

Where do you guys live, in Utah?
And do you happen to do any urban ball?
If they did that here and T'd everyone that curse on any level, they would not be working at all. Or not working in the right places. I am not saying is should be tolerated, but it certainly does not need a T every time it is heard either. Just like every coach or player complains about a judgment call that is also a T under the rules.

I gave my first T tonight and it had nothign to do with a curse word. It actually had little to do with on incident. It was a coach that was warned about his behavior directly and then choose to go over the top and got stuck. He hardly said a word the rest of the game. He also knew darn well why he was penalized too.

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Old Sat Dec 10, 2011, 03:50am
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If they did that here and T'd everyone that curse on any level, they would not be working at all. Or not working in the right places. I am not saying is should be tolerated, but it certainly does not need a T every time it is heard either. Just like every coach or player complains about a judgment call that is also a T under the rules.

I gave my first T tonight and it had nothign to do with a curse word. It actually had little to do with on incident. It was a coach that was warned about his behavior directly and then choose to go over the top and got stuck. He hardly said a word the rest of the game. He also knew darn well why he was penalized too.

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Or maybe if enough people called it, it would stop happening. Consistently calling something usually results in the action occurring less frequently than letting it go a lot of the time. A lot of the profanity that is tolerated doesn't have to exist and could easily be eliminated if those in power wanted it to be so.
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Old Sat Dec 10, 2011, 12:25pm
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Or maybe if enough people called it, it would stop happening. Consistently calling something usually results in the action occurring less frequently than letting it go a lot of the time. A lot of the profanity that is tolerated doesn't have to exist and could easily be eliminated if those in power wanted it to be so.
Here is the thing, not everyone around here gets excited over profanity. Actually all it takes is one quiet word and it stops. But just because it is heard does not mean the music is going to stop. I did not say tolerance, I said that it may not result in a T, there is a big difference. Which is why "damn" is not going to be a big deal and players talking amongst each other is also different than talking to your opponents or to the officials.

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Old Sat Dec 10, 2011, 01:42pm
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I too thought of this thread last night.

GV. Visitors losing by 8-10 points most of 2d half. Home team has a senior girl who is 6'4". Home team plays a high pressure in your face style of ball. V1 has ball near visitors bench at time line. I am T bench side and have dropped into back court to give girls room. H1 has assumed a Hi pressure stance right in V1's grill, but is maintaining verticality. V1, who had picked up her dribble, leans back to try and throw a pass but takes a step. I called travelling. V HC wants a pushing foul. I explained no contact and that she lost her balance. As I was about to turn away the assistant coach, who was chirping all night dismissively waved me off with both hands. Under the organ grinder/monkey theory of assistant coaches (see below) she was whacked. HC was not pleased. H team won by 8.
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Old Sun Dec 11, 2011, 01:22am
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What a doozie tonight.

2nd game of a Freshman/JV double header. 2nd quarter, assistant coach apparently doesn't like a call I make in front of his bench. He spouts off something fairly benign at me, to which I turn to the JV head coach and ask him to do me a favor and instruct his bench to keep the chit chat to a minimum. This prompts the V head coach to jump off the bench like he wants to fight me and say "What are you talking about?"

Whack.

Couple trips down the floor, I'm again T next to the same bench, I make another call the peanut gallery doesn't like. This time, the freshman coach, who never made a peep in his game but is now sitting at the end of the bench, says "This guy has got to be out of his freaking mind."

Whack.

So now the JV head coach is only one indirect from getting tossed from the game when he didn't even do anything.

We walk into the locker room at halftime and I find out that the assistant who got the 1st T is the varsity coach. The guys following me are pleading with me not to toss him.

"Why? Wouldn't I be doing you a favor?" I say.

Luckily, neither of the two boneheads show up on the bench for the second half and the game ends smoothly
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Old Sun Dec 11, 2011, 08:21am
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We Actually Once Had A Junior Varsity Official Toss A "Varsity" Coach ...

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I find out that the assistant who got the 1st T is the varsity coach. Neither of the two boneheads show up on the bench for the second half and the game ends smoothly
Here in Connecticut, if the "varsity" coach had been tossed from a junior varsity game, he would have to sit out his varsity game that night, and could not coach until he sat out another junior varsity game. If it were holiday tournament time, or playoffs, of some type, where there weren't any junior varsity games scheduled, that could be along time away from the bench.
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Old Sat Dec 10, 2011, 08:15am
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I gave my first T tonight and it had nothign to do with a curse word. It actually had little to do with on incident. It was a coach that was warned about his behavior directly and then choose to go over the top and got stuck. He hardly said a word the rest of the game. He also knew darn well why he was penalized too.
Yup. After I called my technical (which had no profanity involved), the coach didn't say anything -- although my partner had to tell him to sit down, which he also did without saying anything.

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Old Sat Dec 10, 2011, 10:31am
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Wow! Doormat?
Because the coach did his job & used the word "damn" while doing so?

Where do you guys live, in Utah?
And do you happen to do any urban ball?
Hey, I know a lot of people from Utah, and some of them are d@mn good officials!
(Besides, "d@mn and he11 are biblical, so I can use them!)
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