Flopping

[tref]

Originally Posted by Refsmitty

At our association meeting yesterday - senior trainer said that faking a foul such as a charge is a T. I am unable to find that in any reading I do. Is it?

Before ruling that a flop is a T, ask the senior trainer how many times he's ruled that way.

[letemplay]

+1 Like a middle school ref cautioned our kids the other day AFTER a game not to throw the ball wildly up in the air after the buzzer in a very close game and for team not to run off bench and wildly celebrate the win...he tells 'em he could call a T for excessive celebration even after time expired. I just had to ask him..."would you really call that...REALLY...have you ever called that?"

[Adam]

I've called it once, after a warning, when the player fell back screaming with the opponent six feet away, in an elementary YMCA game.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by letemplay

...he tells 'em he could call a T for excessive celebration even after time expired.

He'd be wrong. There's nothing in the rule book for excessive celebration.

Baiting, taunting, disrespectul addressing, yes. Celebrating, no.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by tref

Before ruling that a flop is a T, ask the senior trainer how many times he's ruled that way.

And how would his response help to make a decision on whether to give out a technical foul for a "flop"?

I think I know what you mean--that discretion is called for before dishing out a technical foul for "faking being fouled." No quarrel with that. I've only called it once that I can remember. And yes, it was merited.

A problem exists, however, if the basis for that discretion, knowledge of the rule, is lacking. Or if whether or not to make a call is dependent upon how often other officials say they've made that call. That's not any sort of basis from which to exercise judgment.

The number of times a senior trainer has or has not called something doesn't serve as much of a basis for when "faking being fouled" really should be called.

Not intending to be a butt-head about it, please don't misunderstand. I'm just a soul whose intentions are good...

Alternative opinions welcome...