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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 10:58am
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7-1-2: What am I missing?
The ball is out of bounds when it touches…
A. a player who is out of bounds
B. any person, floor or object outside a boundary
C. supports or back of backboard
D. all the above
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 11:11am
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the ceiling, overhead equipment or supports.

Also, when it passes over a rectangular backboard
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 11:15am
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Right.

But, answer the question as written.
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 11:18am
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 11:19am
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 11:19am
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The ball is out of bounds when it touches…
A. a player who is out of bounds
B. any person, floor or object outside a boundary
C. supports or back of backboard
D. all the above
Is the ball out of bounds when it touches a player who is out of bounds? Yes.

Is the ball out of bounds when it touches any person, floor or object outside a boundary? Yes.

Is the ball out of bounds when it touches a supports or back of backboard? Yes.

So then your answer to the question is (D). These 3 cases may not be all the cases which cause the ball to become dead, but they're all true. IOW, it's options are correct, but incomplete.
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 11:26am
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Is the ball out of bounds when it touches a player who is out of bounds? Yes.

Is the ball out of bounds when it touches any person, floor or object outside a boundary? Yes.

Is the ball out of bounds when it touches a supports or back of backboard? Yes.

So then your answer to the question is (D). These 3 cases may not be all the cases which cause the ball to become dead, but they're all true. IOW, it's options are correct, but incomplete.
Jugs, I agree it's incomplete; however, as written I agree the answer is D - a certain state association doesn't agree.

Edit: I must be missing something.
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Jugs, I agree it's incomplete; however, as written I agree the answer is D - a certain state association doesn't agree.

Edit: I must be missing something.
Did they say why or what in particular causes (D) to not be the correct answer?

Maybe they supplied option (E) in invisible ink?
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 11:57am
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Did they say why or what in particular causes (D) to not be the correct answer?

Maybe they supplied option (E) in invisible ink?
They haven't yet. I'm trying to get clarification as to why the answer isn't 'D'.
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 12:44pm
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Maybe (hopefully) the answer key is wrong?
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A1 can be outside a boundary and still not yet be "out of bounds" yet by definition. Think save in mid air....

So change B to read:

B. any person, floor or object out of bounds

But that still leaves 2 right answers instead of "all of the above".

Unless the backboard supports by definition are not OOB...don't have any books here.
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A1 can be outside a boundary and still not yet be "out of bounds" yet by definition. Think save in mid air....

So change B to read:

B. any person, floor or object out of bounds

But that still leaves 2 right answers instead of "all of the above".

Unless the backboard supports by definition are not OOB...don't have any books here.
A "save in mid air" outside a boundary yet still in bounds must be done by a player, and a player is not a person. (Ignore the connotation. )

So (B) is included for that reason.
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 01:45pm
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A1 can be outside a boundary and still not yet be "out of bounds" yet by definition. Think save in mid air....

So change B to read:

B. any person, floor or object out of bounds

But that still leaves 2 right answers instead of "all of the above".

Unless the backboard supports by definition are not OOB...don't have any books here.
"Person" in B does not include players. It includes bench personnel, fans, etc.

All of the above, as written in the OP is correct.
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 02:54pm
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D was/is my final answer.....just trying to talk through why some association may have a different answer other than "d".
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Old Fri Dec 02, 2011, 12:18pm
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Maybe (hopefully) the answer key is wrong?
I believe this is what happened. I believe the issue has been corrected. Thanks everyone.
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