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Old Tue Mar 22, 2011, 04:50pm
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You obviously do not understand the point I was making. If you watched the ESPN Documentary that premiered over a week ago about the "Fab 5" you would have seen that the participants and even those that covered the team and the program are not totally convinced that Weber took money while at school. And according to Jalen Rose, who lived in the same community of Weber and Martin said that much of the accusations directed toward Martin were not associated with the Michigan program. Rose made it clear that Martin did things for kids throughout the community and not just players that went to a particular school or even were college players. And reporter Mitch Album (sp?) that was close to the situation claimed that if Webber was getting money while at Michigan, he sure was hiding it very well with the car he drove and the clothes he had on his back or the place he lived. So the issues do not seem cut and dry to those that witnessed the events. Album's assertion is that Weber left school after his sophomore year because he was not getting and benefit to what he and his teammates were bringing to the school and Nike specifically.


Jalen Rose is a trusted source? Jalen Rose? THE Jalen Rose?

Bu-wa-ha-ha-ha.....

Again, are you freaking serious? By his own admission, Webber started taking money when he was in junior high school. The MHSAA wanted to expunge all his high school records too, but Webber's high school refused to do it and the MHSAA didn't have the power to do it themselves.

Soooooo, Webber admitted himself that he took money but others think he was lying. Got it.

Webber was charged with lying to a Grand Jury. He pleaded guilty and was fined $100,000. Yup, he pled "guilty". Whatinthehell is more convincing than pleading guilty?

Maybe you should check some facts, Jeff, before getting on your high horse. Google is your friend.

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That's just one source.
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Old Tue Mar 22, 2011, 07:15pm
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Jalen Rose is a trusted source? Jalen Rose? THE Jalen Rose?

Bu-wa-ha-ha-ha.....
Yes, he was there. Were you or I there? Oh, and a reporter was there too and talked about the situation as well.

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Again, are you freaking serious? By his own admission, Webber started taking money when he was in junior high school. The MHSAA wanted to expunge all his high school records too, but Webber's high school refused to do it and the MHSAA didn't have the power to do it themselves.
And this means what? Again if you paid attention the reports the kid played in the gutter of Detroit. Not sure what he benefitted from while in HS.

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Soooooo, Webber admitted himself that he took money but others think he was lying. Got it.

Webber was charged with lying to a Grand Jury. He pleaded guilty and was fined $100,000. Yup, he pled "guilty". Whatinthehell is more convincing than pleading guilty?

Maybe you should check some facts, Jeff, before getting on your high horse. Google is your friend.
When did I say anything about what Webber did or did not admit to? I said reports were scratchy as to when he took money and the circumstances. And that Grand Jury was about Martin and his finances, not just about athletes. And the man died before anything was solved.

I am fully aware of the charges and what he was accused of lying to a Grand Jury, not doing anything else wrong legally. I am fully aware of what was reported. And know you want to us Google as a trusted source when anyone can put up things. I would trust the people that cover the team or were around than Wikipedia for God's sake. You make it sound like everyone agrees with the rules of the NCAA and things those kids have to be expected to do. Not every situation is about being an athlete and benefitting from such things.

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Old Tue Mar 22, 2011, 08:35pm
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And know you want to us Google as a trusted source when anyone can put up things.
A conviction on Webber's record for lying isn't a trusted source? An admission by Webber that he was getting money from a numbers operator and money launderer from the time he was in junior high school isn't either? But your personal idea of what actually happened ....even though it's contrary to the written record and can't be proven in any way.....is what happened?

Got it.

The man is a saint.

I'm done. And note I didn't make my point either. History did that for me.
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