2011 Tournament Discussion Redux

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jophyal

I never said he should come out. My point was that all of you are timing and debating this. All it takes is someone, any of us officials, to say something like,"I can see where people are confused. I should have done a better job by (fill in the blank). Are we better than anyone else who admits mistakes, errors, or admitys they could have done a better job.

That seems to have been the consensus here, from what I've read. His mechanics were off, but the call was pretty close.

Originally Posted by jophyal

Oh yeah, I have noticed in my few posts that you select few are the end all.

???

Originally Posted by jophyal

Get better! Isn't that what we all want??

How does that apply?

[jophyal]

We are here to get better... I was hoping with all the sarcasm you throw around you could have gotten it. Like my posts, I will work harder at making things easier to understand.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jophyal

We are here to get better... I was hoping with all the sarcasm you throw around you could have gotten it. Like my posts, I will work harder at making things easier to understand.

Oh, I know we're here to get better. Well, except for Jurassic. I think he's serving some sort of Community Service penalty or something.

My point was, what does that have to do with the comments made thus far? You accused the board of hiding behind a non-existent rule. You insinuate that he shouldn't isolate his admission to internal ears at the NCAA and compare it to Jim Joyce, then deny you think he should have gone public with his apology. I'm trying to figure out what you meant.

If you are trying to say he could have done better, no one disagrees with that.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Oh, I know we're here to get better. Well, except for Jurassic. I think he's serving some sort of Community Service penalty or something.

Yup, I was convicted and sentenced to spend a minimum of 5 hours each day arguing with azzholes.

It's cruel and inhumane punishment but I'll try to suffer through it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by jophyal

We are here to get better... I was hoping with all the sarcasm you throw around you could have gotten it. Like my posts, I will work harder at making things easier to understand.

Well, based on what I've read through 15 pages my earlier post pretty much sums it up.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Difference being that the Syracuse mistake was a mis-application of the rules. Cartmell's call was a judgement call. We've all seen the replay and have our opinion about Cartmell's mechanics (and I believe he should have granted a TO) but it still comes down to whether or not Cartmell felt he reached 5 before the player requested a timeout. All the rest of us are doing is speculating.

There is no speculation that the backcourt call was wrong, it's a fact, and it's been acknowledged.

I have heard I am wise beyond my years.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I have heard I am wise beyond my years.

Maybe, but you were told that by a Yankee fan, so take it FWIW.