Double Foul During AP Throw-In

[RandyBrown]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

All of what you are saying shows that you do not know the meaning of Point of Interruption. If the POI is an alternating possession throw-in then the subsequent throw-in retains that status.

If this had occurred during a non-designated spot throw-in (after a made basket) then guess what. Play would be resumed with Team A entitled to running the end line on the throw-in.

You really need to get in the books and learn what POI is before wasting so many keystrokes.

You are begging the question: You say it is retained, because it is retained. Where is it written that it is retained?

Regarding your non-designated analogy: You are mistaken. 7-5-7b specifies retention only in the case of a common foul. 7-5-3 mandates a “Designated out-of-bounds spot throw-in nearest to where the ball became dead” in the case of a double foul. The non-designated TI is history. It is now designated at the POI.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by RandyBrown

!)You are begging the question: You say it is retained, because it is retained. Where is it written that it is retained?

Regarding your non-designated analogy: You are mistaken. 7-5-7b specifies retention only in the case of a common foul. 7-5-3 mandates a “Designated out-of-bounds spot throw-in nearest to where the ball became dead” in the case of a double foul. The non-designated TI is history. It is now designated at the POI.

1) NFHS rule 4-36-2(b)

2) NFHS rule 4-36-2(b)

Your problem(s) is that not only do you talk too f'ing much, you don't listen and you can't or won't try to understand what people are trying to tell you.

You'll learn a helluva lot more here listening than talking, especially when you've already shown us you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Sorry, but there it is.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by RandyBrown

You are begging the question: You say it is retained, because it is retained. Where is it written that it is retained?

Regarding your non-designated analogy: You are mistaken. 7-5-7b specifies retention only in the case of a common foul. 7-5-3 mandates a “Designated out-of-bounds spot throw-in nearest to where the ball became dead” in the case of a double foul. The non-designated TI is history. It is now designated at the POI.

Don't have NFHS with me so I'll put the NCAA rule out there:

Section 53. Point of Interruption
Art. 2. Play shall be resumed after any appropriate penalty is administered by one of the following methods:

a. A throw-in to the team that was in control at a designated spot nearest to where the ball was located when the stoppage occurred.

1. A ball that is not in contact with a player or the playing court retains the same status as when it was last in contact with a player or the playing court. This does not apply to a try in flight.

Exceptions: (Men) A single contact dead ball and a single flagrant technical foul (ball awarded at the division line).

b. (Women) A throw-in to the offended team at a designated spot nearest to where the ball was located when the stoppage occurred for a technical foul for an excessive timeout or a single flagrant technical foul.

c. A free throw or a throw-in when the stoppage occurred during this activity or when a team is entitled to such with no reset of the shot clock.

d. An alternating-possession throw-in at a designated spot with a reset of the shot clock when the point of interruption is such that neither team is in control and no goal, infraction, nor end of half/extra period is involved.

Exception: (Women) Rule 2-11.7.i.

You notice how in "c", the only play specifically referencing a play that was stopped during a throw-in, that the phrase "designated spot" is not included? Do you think there might be a reason for that?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by RandyBrown

...Regarding your non-designated analogy: You are mistaken. 7-5-7b specifies retention only in the case of a common foul. 7-5-3 mandates a “Designated out-of-bounds spot throw-in nearest to where the ball became dead” in the case of a double foul. The non-designated TI is history. It is now designated at the POI.

And again using the NCAA rule book:

Rule 7 Section 5
Art. 6. After a successful goal as listed in Rule 7-4.1.c,

a. The team not credited with the score shall make the throw-in from the end of the court where the goal was made and from any point outside the end line which includes the following:

1. A common foul is committed near the end line before the bonus is in effect;
2. An intentional personal foul or a flagrant personal foul is committed near the end line;
3. A goaltending or basket interference violation;
4. The ball is intentionally kicked by the defense along the end line during the throw-in; or
5. A timeout is granted.
b. For the above, any player of the throw-in team may make a direct throw-in or may pass the ball along the end line to a teammate(s) who is also out of bounds.

[Adam]

Gee, BNR, seems an IW would lead Randy to resume play with a spot throw-in.

[Raymond]

I know Randy is online, just waiting to hear something from him.