Tim Higgins

[biz]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Not sure why Burr would be in if the other two are out except that none of the three events [OOB, coach way out of box, ball hurled into air] occurred in his PCA.

Adams went out of his way to compliment Burr on the season he was having and then "no commented" on Higgins and Walton. You don't have to read between the lines too hard to come up with the conclusion that Burr will get an NCAA assignment and the other two won't.

I would disagree with you too. Burr as the new Trail has responsibility for the line that Brownlee stepped out on so that is in his PCA, although I agree that in transition Higgins should have helped him on the OOB call.

Here's another comment from Mr. Adams, nothing earth shattering though.


NCAA supervisor pledges that refs will get younger - College Basketball News | FOX Sports on MSN

[Rich]

Originally Posted by biz

Adams went out of his way to compliment Burr on the season he was having and then "no commented" on Higgins and Walton. You don't have to read between the lines too hard to come up with the conclusion that Burr will get an NCAA assignment and the other two won't.

I would disagree with you too. Burr as the new Trail has responsibility for the line that Brownlee stepped out on so that is in his PCA, although I agree that in transition Higgins should have helped him on the OOB call.

Here's another comment from Mr. Adams, nothing earth shattering though.


NCAA supervisor pledges that refs will get younger - College Basketball News | FOX Sports on MSN

The last line of that article is complete horsesh!t.

[dsqrddgd909]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

The last line of that article is complete horsesh!t.

I watched this a number of times. Are you saying there wasn't contact or that the contact was incidental on the play?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909

I watched this a number of times. Are you saying there wasn't contact or that the contact was incidental on the play?

He's saying calling it a "clear foul" is horse sht.

I still have yet to see a video of the fouls that were allegedly missed.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909

I watched this a number of times. Are you saying there wasn't contact or that the contact was incidental on the play?

I'm saying that I think the offense initiated the contact and that I thought a no call was the proper call on the play.

[dsqrddgd909]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I'm saying that I think the offense initiated the contact and that I thought a no call was the proper call on the play.

Rich, Thank you. I'm still a pup and am trying to learn how to judge contact on a play like that.

[Judtech]

The only foul I think MIGHT have been missed was the push on the rebound. But the drive to the basket and the long pass/catch were realy good No Calls IMO

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Judtech

The only foul I think MIGHT have been missed was the push on the rebound. But the drive to the basket and the long pass/catch were realy good No Calls IMO

Really? See, I think the long pass/catch was probably the one I would've called a foul (from the comfort of my stool at Hooters, which is where I actually watched the ending). Looked like the St. John's player went right through the Rutgers player to knock the ball clear.

Just goes to show that the no calls weren't simply "the Big East philosophy of no amputation, no foul" but were difficult plays to rule on.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I'm saying that I think the offense initiated the contact and that I thought a no call was the proper call on the play.

And I was on record yesterday agreeing with that. Good, experienced officials aren't going to bail out a shooter jumping into somebody. And if the defender isn't knocked down,you won't see a charge either.

When they get their evaluations on this game, that no-call will be a + imo.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by biz

Adams went out of his way to compliment Burr on the season he was having and then "no commented" on Higgins and Walton. You don't have to read between the lines too hard to come up with the conclusion that Burr will get an NCAA assignment and the other two won't.

I would disagree with you too. Burr as the new Trail has responsibility for the line that Brownlee stepped out on so that is in his PCA, although I agree that in transition Higgins should have helped him on the OOB call.

Here's another comment from Mr. Adams, nothing earth shattering though.


NCAA supervisor pledges that refs will get younger - College Basketball News | FOX Sports on MSN

I'm with Rut. Who is the guy in front of the St John's bench? Higgins or Burr? THAT is the guy who was apparently straight-lined.

[mbyron]

The previously posted video showed just 1:09 of coverage; this one shows 3 minutes. It also shows the plays, one under each basket, that many feel were missed foul calls.

[biz]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

I'm with Rut. Who is the guy in front of the St John's bench? Higgins or Burr? THAT is the guy who was apparently straight-lined.

Higgins is in front of the St John's bench.

For clarification:

Jim Burr



Tim Higgins

[APG]

On the dribble drive by the Rutgers player, I most definitely have a foul on the defender.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

On the dribble drive by the Rutgers player, I most definitely have a foul on the defender.

That's what I was thinking. A still photo doesn't prove anything, but this one is suggestive:

[APG]

Originally Posted by mbyron

That's what I was thinking. A still photo doesn't prove anything, but this one is suggestive:

That to me was the second easiest call. I was absolutely shocked there was no call and a bit confused how some are defending the no call on this one.