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Source: Officials from Rutgers-St. John's game withdraw from Big East tournament - ESPN
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Old Thu Mar 10, 2011, 11:31am
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Not surprising...veteran guys who either did the right thing for the tournament on their own or were "asked" to do this. Either way it's the right way for it to be settled IMHO. Especially for 2 guys like Higgins and Burr who between them have about 25 Final Four appearances.

I would guess after Mr. Adams' earlier statements that Burr is in next week, but Higgins and Walton are out for the NCAA tourney.
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Not surprising...veteran guys who either did the right thing for the tournament on their own or were "asked" to do this. Either way it's the right way for it to be settled IMHO. Especially for 2 guys like Higgins and Burr who between them have about 25 Final Four appearances.

I would guess after Mr. Adams' earlier statements that Burr is in next week, but Higgins and Walton are out for the NCAA tourney.
Not sure why Burr would be in if the other two are out except that none of the three events [OOB, coach way out of box, ball hurled into air] occurred in his PCA.
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Seen just now on twitter: "That's the best call they've made in 24 hours."

(You have to admit, that is kinda funny)
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Well I heard this line from a coach one time when asked why he was using aged officials that physically couldn't maintain the level of play IMO of the 5A ball that was on the floor..


"Jeremy, a s--tty known is better than an unknown..."

I think sometimes in the NCAA the same principles apply....
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Not sure why Burr would be in if the other two are out except that none of the three events [OOB, coach way out of box, ball hurled into air] occurred in his PCA.
Adams went out of his way to compliment Burr on the season he was having and then "no commented" on Higgins and Walton. You don't have to read between the lines too hard to come up with the conclusion that Burr will get an NCAA assignment and the other two won't.

I would disagree with you too. Burr as the new Trail has responsibility for the line that Brownlee stepped out on so that is in his PCA, although I agree that in transition Higgins should have helped him on the OOB call.

Here's another comment from Mr. Adams, nothing earth shattering though.


NCAA supervisor pledges that refs will get younger - College Basketball News | FOX Sports on MSN
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Adams went out of his way to compliment Burr on the season he was having and then "no commented" on Higgins and Walton. You don't have to read between the lines too hard to come up with the conclusion that Burr will get an NCAA assignment and the other two won't.

I would disagree with you too. Burr as the new Trail has responsibility for the line that Brownlee stepped out on so that is in his PCA, although I agree that in transition Higgins should have helped him on the OOB call.

Here's another comment from Mr. Adams, nothing earth shattering though.


NCAA supervisor pledges that refs will get younger - College Basketball News | FOX Sports on MSN
The last line of that article is complete horsesh!t.
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The last line of that article is complete horsesh!t.
I watched this a number of times. Are you saying there wasn't contact or that the contact was incidental on the play?
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I watched this a number of times. Are you saying there wasn't contact or that the contact was incidental on the play?
He's saying calling it a "clear foul" is horse sht.

I still have yet to see a video of the fouls that were allegedly missed.
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I watched this a number of times. Are you saying there wasn't contact or that the contact was incidental on the play?
I'm saying that I think the offense initiated the contact and that I thought a no call was the proper call on the play.
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Adams went out of his way to compliment Burr on the season he was having and then "no commented" on Higgins and Walton. You don't have to read between the lines too hard to come up with the conclusion that Burr will get an NCAA assignment and the other two won't.

I would disagree with you too. Burr as the new Trail has responsibility for the line that Brownlee stepped out on so that is in his PCA, although I agree that in transition Higgins should have helped him on the OOB call.

Here's another comment from Mr. Adams, nothing earth shattering though.


NCAA supervisor pledges that refs will get younger - College Basketball News | FOX Sports on MSN
I'm with Rut. Who is the guy in front of the St John's bench? Higgins or Burr? THAT is the guy who was apparently straight-lined.
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The previously posted video showed just 1:09 of coverage; this one shows 3 minutes. It also shows the plays, one under each basket, that many feel were missed foul calls.

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I'm with Rut. Who is the guy in front of the St John's bench? Higgins or Burr? THAT is the guy who was apparently straight-lined.
Higgins is in front of the St John's bench.

For clarification:

Jim Burr



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On the dribble drive by the Rutgers player, I most definitely have a foul on the defender.
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Higgins is in front of the St John's bench.

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Why no picture of Earl Walton?
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