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Old Thu Mar 10, 2011, 12:33pm
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The only foul I think MIGHT have been missed was the push on the rebound. But the drive to the basket and the long pass/catch were realy good No Calls IMO
Really? See, I think the long pass/catch was probably the one I would've called a foul (from the comfort of my stool at Hooters, which is where I actually watched the ending). Looked like the St. John's player went right through the Rutgers player to knock the ball clear.

Just goes to show that the no calls weren't simply "the Big East philosophy of no amputation, no foul" but were difficult plays to rule on.
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Really? See, I think the long pass/catch was probably the one I would've called a foul (from the comfort of my stool at Hooters, which is where I actually watched the ending). Looked like the St. John's player went right through the Rutgers player to knock the ball clear.
They both jumped into each other. Not sure who you would call the foul on. Neither had the ball and the contact put neither at a big advantage or disadvantage. It was a poorly executed play.

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I'm saying that I think the offense initiated the contact and that I thought a no call was the proper call on the play.
And I was on record yesterday agreeing with that. Good, experienced officials aren't going to bail out a shooter jumping into somebody. And if the defender isn't knocked down,you won't see a charge either.

When they get their evaluations on this game, that no-call will be a + imo.
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Old Thu Mar 10, 2011, 01:05pm
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They both jumped into each other. Not sure who you would call the foul on. Neither had the ball and the contact put neither at a big advantage or disadvantage. It was a poorly executed play.

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And I can see the reason for passing on it. To me, it appeared the Rutgers player had position and was bumped from behind.

We can nitpick the other stuff to death -- the only thing that got really messed up was the last 1.7 seconds.
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We can nitpick the other stuff to death -- the only thing that got really messed up was the last 1.7 seconds.
Amen. If the last play gets called, the officiating never gets mentioned.
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Amen. If the last play gets called, the officiating never gets mentioned.
Except by Jay Bilas who seemed more focussed on the alleged fouls that were missed in the last minute.
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Adams went out of his way to compliment Burr on the season he was having and then "no commented" on Higgins and Walton. You don't have to read between the lines too hard to come up with the conclusion that Burr will get an NCAA assignment and the other two won't.

I would disagree with you too. Burr as the new Trail has responsibility for the line that Brownlee stepped out on so that is in his PCA, although I agree that in transition Higgins should have helped him on the OOB call.

Here's another comment from Mr. Adams, nothing earth shattering though.


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I'm with Rut. Who is the guy in front of the St John's bench? Higgins or Burr? THAT is the guy who was apparently straight-lined.
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The previously posted video showed just 1:09 of coverage; this one shows 3 minutes. It also shows the plays, one under each basket, that many feel were missed foul calls.

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I'm with Rut. Who is the guy in front of the St John's bench? Higgins or Burr? THAT is the guy who was apparently straight-lined.
Higgins is in front of the St John's bench.

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On the dribble drive by the Rutgers player, I most definitely have a foul on the defender.
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On the dribble drive by the Rutgers player, I most definitely have a foul on the defender.
That's what I was thinking. A still photo doesn't prove anything, but this one is suggestive:

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That's what I was thinking. A still photo doesn't prove anything, but this one is suggestive:
That to me was the second easiest call. I was absolutely shocked there was no call and a bit confused how some are defending the no call on this one.
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Higgins is in front of the St John's bench.

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Why no picture of Earl Walton?
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