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Old Thu Mar 10, 2011, 10:32am
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Just curious and trying to learn -- what's the rule? I know there's a rule for DoG that requires a warning first. And I know that there are admin techs that can be given to "followers" for preventing the ball from being made live. But what's the rule that would allow a T for a checked in player throwing the ball into the stands during a time out if no warning had been given?

Edit -- sorry, don't know why I said "time out". I meant after the violation.
10-5-a (player T) in high school. I think (but I'm not sure) the NCAA rule is similar.

The four warnings are separate: 10-1-5c-f (under team T).
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hmmmmm

Source: Officials from Rutgers-St. John's game withdraw from Big East tournament - ESPN
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Old Thu Mar 10, 2011, 11:31am
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Not surprising...veteran guys who either did the right thing for the tournament on their own or were "asked" to do this. Either way it's the right way for it to be settled IMHO. Especially for 2 guys like Higgins and Burr who between them have about 25 Final Four appearances.

I would guess after Mr. Adams' earlier statements that Burr is in next week, but Higgins and Walton are out for the NCAA tourney.
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Not surprising...veteran guys who either did the right thing for the tournament on their own or were "asked" to do this. Either way it's the right way for it to be settled IMHO. Especially for 2 guys like Higgins and Burr who between them have about 25 Final Four appearances.

I would guess after Mr. Adams' earlier statements that Burr is in next week, but Higgins and Walton are out for the NCAA tourney.
Not sure why Burr would be in if the other two are out except that none of the three events [OOB, coach way out of box, ball hurled into air] occurred in his PCA.
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Seen just now on twitter: "That's the best call they've made in 24 hours."

(You have to admit, that is kinda funny)
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Old Thu Mar 10, 2011, 11:45am
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Not sure why Burr would be in if the other two are out except that none of the three events [OOB, coach way out of box, ball hurled into air] occurred in his PCA.
Adams went out of his way to compliment Burr on the season he was having and then "no commented" on Higgins and Walton. You don't have to read between the lines too hard to come up with the conclusion that Burr will get an NCAA assignment and the other two won't.

I would disagree with you too. Burr as the new Trail has responsibility for the line that Brownlee stepped out on so that is in his PCA, although I agree that in transition Higgins should have helped him on the OOB call.

Here's another comment from Mr. Adams, nothing earth shattering though.


NCAA supervisor pledges that refs will get younger - College Basketball News | FOX Sports on MSN
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Well I heard this line from a coach one time when asked why he was using aged officials that physically couldn't maintain the level of play IMO of the 5A ball that was on the floor..


"Jeremy, a s--tty known is better than an unknown..."

I think sometimes in the NCAA the same principles apply....
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Adams went out of his way to compliment Burr on the season he was having and then "no commented" on Higgins and Walton. You don't have to read between the lines too hard to come up with the conclusion that Burr will get an NCAA assignment and the other two won't.

I would disagree with you too. Burr as the new Trail has responsibility for the line that Brownlee stepped out on so that is in his PCA, although I agree that in transition Higgins should have helped him on the OOB call.

Here's another comment from Mr. Adams, nothing earth shattering though.


NCAA supervisor pledges that refs will get younger - College Basketball News | FOX Sports on MSN
The last line of that article is complete horsesh!t.
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The last line of that article is complete horsesh!t.
I watched this a number of times. Are you saying there wasn't contact or that the contact was incidental on the play?
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Not sure why Burr would be in if the other two are out except that none of the three events [OOB, coach way out of box, ball hurled into air] occurred in his PCA.
The fact that Adams made the statement without having seen the video means he's probably already made up his mind about Burr and this game isn't going to affect much.
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I watched this a number of times. Are you saying there wasn't contact or that the contact was incidental on the play?
He's saying calling it a "clear foul" is horse sht.

I still have yet to see a video of the fouls that were allegedly missed.
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I watched this a number of times. Are you saying there wasn't contact or that the contact was incidental on the play?
I'm saying that I think the offense initiated the contact and that I thought a no call was the proper call on the play.
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In 3-person that sideline belongs to the trail. Since it's in transition should the lead help? Of course.

Walton had the clock, though. He could've called a travel and he should've known there was time left.
In my experience the Lead and the Trail always help each other out on these plays. They are spread out all over the court and it might be who has the better look. There are not primaries the same way there are in transition.

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I'm saying that I think the offense initiated the contact and that I thought a no call was the proper call on the play.
Rich, Thank you. I'm still a pup and am trying to learn how to judge contact on a play like that.
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The only foul I think MIGHT have been missed was the push on the rebound. But the drive to the basket and the long pass/catch were realy good No Calls IMO
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