Great officials gesture

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Couldn't a coach go back and look at the tape and point out that the official's shoelaces weren't untied or that the official took out a coin from his pocket and put the coin on the court? You know, if there was a coach that wanted to go that route and complain about this.

And when the losing coach complains, all the official has to do is say "My shoe was loose on my foot - I needed to tie it tighter."

The coin one I would not do...

But simply blowing the whistle to bring the sub on is a good way to get yourself in trouble with a supervison/assignor.

[JRutledge]

I never understand why officials worry about what kids play. This is on the coach and they can do all kinds of things to allow the kid to play. I agree it is a nice gesture, but I would not be doing this at all. Why open myself up for something to be scrutinized by unless this was a directive from the conference to do such a thing.

Peace

[Raymond]

All OSU had to do was call a time-out for substitution purposes only. You are not required to used the entire T-O in NCAA ball.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

All OSU had to do was call a time-out for substitution purposes only. You are not required to used the entire T-O in NCAA ball.

NFHS - I don't have my books handy. But, in HS, if one team is ready to go and the other not, don't you need to maintain the TO length. i.e. - you can't shorten a 60 sec TO to 40 secs unless both teams are ready, correct?

So, you're saying it's different in NCAA?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by grunewar

NFHS - I don't have my books handy. But, in HS, if one team is ready to go and the other not, don't you need to maintain the TO length. i.e. - you can't shorten a 60 sec TO to 40 secs unless both teams are ready, correct?

So, you're saying it's different in NCAA?

Yes. If the calling team chooses to use a TO to get a player into the game and then is ready to play, the timeout is over.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by grunewar

NFHS - I don't have my books handy. But, in HS, if one team is ready to go and the other not, don't you need to maintain the TO length. i.e. - you can't shorten a 60 sec TO to 40 secs unless both teams are ready, correct?

So, you're saying it's different in NCAA?

You are correct for NFHS, I believe the calling team has the option to shorten it in NCAA.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You are correct for NFHS, I believe the calling team has the option to shorten it in NCAA.

Under NCAA rules when the calling team breaks the huddle and I'm advising the other team it that the T-O is over.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You are correct for NFHS, I believe the calling team has the option to shorten it in NCAA.

I was told that for the TOs for the JUCO Tournament (uses NCAA Rules), that if the calling team breaks the huddle early, to buzz the horn & to give the other team the additional 15 seconds after the 1st horn to break the huddle before buzzing a 2nd time.

[Adam]

Well looky there, a rule difference that affects the timer.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by chseagle

I was told that for the TOs for the JUCO Tournament (uses NCAA Rules), that if the calling team breaks the huddle early, to buzz the horn & to give the other team the additional 15 seconds after the 1st horn to break the huddle before buzzing a 2nd time.

That would not be correct.

Art. 14

Shortened timeouts:

a. The team that requests a timeout may shorten that timeout when the captain/head coach notifies the official of the team's intent. Exception: The first team-called timeout of the second half or extra period in a game involving elect ronic-media timeout format as in 5-13-10.d.

d. When a request has been made to shorten any timeout for a purpose other than for substitution(s), a warning horn shall be sounded immediately and 15 seconds later another signal shall be sounded to resume play.

In other words, the coach or captain has to notify the officials, and the officials will notify the table of the request to shorten the TO. Don't automatically assume the team wants a shortened TO and sound the horn early without notification. What if the coach doesn't have much to say, but wants his players to get the full time to catch their breath? Why would you take that away from them?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by grunewar

NFHS - I don't have my books handy. But, in HS, if one team is ready to go and the other not, don't you need to maintain the TO length. i.e. - you can't shorten a 60 sec TO to 40 secs unless both teams are ready, correct?

So, you're saying it's different in NCAA?

In NCAA, the calling team can shorten the TO, AND there's also a "TO for subs" that is basically zero seconds long. Subs at the table are brought in, the opposing team is allowed an opportunity to counter and the game resumes.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

In NCAA, the calling team can shorten the TO, AND there's also a "TO for subs" that is basically zero seconds long. Subs at the table are brought in, the opposing team is allowed an opportunity to counter and the game resumes.

It's the only time we allow coaches to make the travelling signal without get irritated with them.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

All OSU had to do was call a time-out for substitution purposes only. You are not required to used the entire T-O in NCAA ball.

They still have to use a timeout, but it is not a timeout like a normal timeout. But they still have to have one to accomplish this.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

They still have to use a timeout, but it is not a timeout like a normal timeout. But they still have to have one to accomplish this.

Peace

They had a 30 point lead. Even if they had ZERO time-outs they could have called one, ate a Technical, and got their sub in the game.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

They had a 30 point lead. Even if they had ZERO time-outs they could have called one, ate a Technical, and got their sub in the game.

Yes, that is true. Just wanted to make it clear they have to have a timeout to do this "legally."

Peace