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Old Mon Mar 07, 2011, 01:07pm
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Couldn't a coach go back and look at the tape and point out that the official's shoelaces weren't untied or that the official took out a coin from his pocket and put the coin on the court? You know, if there was a coach that wanted to go that route and complain about this.
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Old Mon Mar 07, 2011, 01:16pm
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Couldn't a coach go back and look at the tape and point out that the official's shoelaces weren't untied or that the official took out a coin from his pocket and put the coin on the court? You know, if there was a coach that wanted to go that route and complain about this.
And when the losing coach complains, all the official has to do is say "My shoe was loose on my foot - I needed to tie it tighter."

The coin one I would not do...

But simply blowing the whistle to bring the sub on is a good way to get yourself in trouble with a supervison/assignor.
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I never understand why officials worry about what kids play. This is on the coach and they can do all kinds of things to allow the kid to play. I agree it is a nice gesture, but I would not be doing this at all. Why open myself up for something to be scrutinized by unless this was a directive from the conference to do such a thing.

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All OSU had to do was call a time-out for substitution purposes only. You are not required to used the entire T-O in NCAA ball.
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All OSU had to do was call a time-out for substitution purposes only. You are not required to used the entire T-O in NCAA ball.
NFHS - I don't have my books handy. But, in HS, if one team is ready to go and the other not, don't you need to maintain the TO length. i.e. - you can't shorten a 60 sec TO to 40 secs unless both teams are ready, correct?

So, you're saying it's different in NCAA?
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NFHS - I don't have my books handy. But, in HS, if one team is ready to go and the other not, don't you need to maintain the TO length. i.e. - you can't shorten a 60 sec TO to 40 secs unless both teams are ready, correct?

So, you're saying it's different in NCAA?
Yes. If the calling team chooses to use a TO to get a player into the game and then is ready to play, the timeout is over.
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NFHS - I don't have my books handy. But, in HS, if one team is ready to go and the other not, don't you need to maintain the TO length. i.e. - you can't shorten a 60 sec TO to 40 secs unless both teams are ready, correct?

So, you're saying it's different in NCAA?
You are correct for NFHS, I believe the calling team has the option to shorten it in NCAA.
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You are correct for NFHS, I believe the calling team has the option to shorten it in NCAA.
Under NCAA rules when the calling team breaks the huddle and I'm advising the other team it that the T-O is over.
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You are correct for NFHS, I believe the calling team has the option to shorten it in NCAA.
I was told that for the TOs for the JUCO Tournament (uses NCAA Rules), that if the calling team breaks the huddle early, to buzz the horn & to give the other team the additional 15 seconds after the 1st horn to break the huddle before buzzing a 2nd time.
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NFHS - I don't have my books handy. But, in HS, if one team is ready to go and the other not, don't you need to maintain the TO length. i.e. - you can't shorten a 60 sec TO to 40 secs unless both teams are ready, correct?

So, you're saying it's different in NCAA?
In NCAA, the calling team can shorten the TO, AND there's also a "TO for subs" that is basically zero seconds long. Subs at the table are brought in, the opposing team is allowed an opportunity to counter and the game resumes.
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In NCAA, the calling team can shorten the TO, AND there's also a "TO for subs" that is basically zero seconds long. Subs at the table are brought in, the opposing team is allowed an opportunity to counter and the game resumes.
It's the only time we allow coaches to make the travelling signal without get irritated with them.
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All OSU had to do was call a time-out for substitution purposes only. You are not required to used the entire T-O in NCAA ball.
They still have to use a timeout, but it is not a timeout like a normal timeout. But they still have to have one to accomplish this.

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They still have to use a timeout, but it is not a timeout like a normal timeout. But they still have to have one to accomplish this.

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They had a 30 point lead. Even if they had ZERO time-outs they could have called one, ate a Technical, and got their sub in the game.
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They had a 30 point lead. Even if they had ZERO time-outs they could have called one, ate a Technical, and got their sub in the game.
Yes, that is true. Just wanted to make it clear they have to have a timeout to do this "legally."

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Couldn't a coach go back and look at the tape and point out that the official's shoelaces ....
I have a 52" HD LCD TV and I couldn't see if his shoelaces were untied or not.

Beside, all he has to say is "My shoe laces were loose," not that anyone is going to say anything.
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