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Old Mon Mar 07, 2011, 01:17pm
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This illustrates my position on the issue. This guy apparently anticipated one thing, then apparently saw something else, but his hands were slow to get the message.

According to the logic of the blarge case: "Dammit, I screwed up the signals, I gotta report a double foul."
And the one man crusade is at it again....
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Old Mon Mar 07, 2011, 01:40pm
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And the one man crusade is at it again....
Well this is obviously the bad part about this board. I never hear these kinds of discussions in any other officiating discussion. I have never heard anyone but JAR make this claim that a call means anything but a signal. I guess it takes all kinds.

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Old Mon Mar 07, 2011, 01:48pm
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I had a partner who had a one-man blarge in a college game this year. He's Lead on a drive to the basket. Crash right in front of him. His whistle (no one else blew) and he signals charge. Hand behind the head, pointing the other way. Then before he leaves the spot, he bangs his fists on his hips. He reported only the block.

I was Trail, and it was clearly a PC. Oh well.
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I have never heard anyone but JAR make this claim that a call means anything but a signal.
Consider the above example. One signal was made. A mistake was realized. The call was changed, accompanied by a different signal. It happens, usually without a second thought.

The two terms are not interchangeable.
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Old Mon Mar 07, 2011, 01:53pm
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Consider the above example. One signal was made. A mistake was realized. The call was changed, accompanied by a different signal. It happens, usually without a second thought.

The two terms are not interchangeable.
Well I do not know how you can call something without giving a signal of some kind. But for some reason you found a way to be more confused by it. How is that working out for you?

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Old Mon Mar 07, 2011, 01:49pm
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Well this is obviously the bad part about this board. I never hear these kinds of discussions in any other officiating discussion. I have never heard anyone but JAR make this claim that a call means anything but a signal. I guess it takes all kinds.

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It's not that discussing the rules like we do sometimes on this board is bad. Sometimes it's good to discuss the "finer" aspects of the rules to get a really good grasp of the rules...especially at this time in the year when most people are wrapping up their seasons.

But we've gone down this road so many times. On this board, it is literally JAR vs. the world. This crusade is even sillier than an insistence of using a belt or not. I even agree with him that by very definition, a blarge is impossible. But NFHS has given us clear direction on how to handle this. It has a universal application of when it comes into effect. One official calls a charge, one calls a block, we have a blarge. This is the same in NCAA-M and the NBA.
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