Another Blarge

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Thirty years. One game. A few scrimmages. Remember, this is Connecticut, the Land of Steady Habits, and the Land of the Two Person Game.

And blarges happen most often in 3-person games.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

And blarges happen most often in 3-person games.

I'm sure that there would be even more in a four person game. And I can guarantee you that athletic directors, and principals, will never, ever, pay for four officials here in Connecticut. At least, not while I'm above ground.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I'm sure that there would be even more in a four person game.

It's the overlapping coverages in the 3-person game. If you have a foul in the lane in 2-person, you know who's getting it. 3-person? Not so much.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I'm sure that there would be even more in a four person game.

Ha!

Seeing how the NBA hasn't yet implement the 4-man mechanics that I designed for them, and the NBE doesn't have blarges, then the question would be when will the NCAA go to 4-man?

[Terrapins Fan]

I expected to get questioned about it.

I talked to my 3rd partner during a TO and he said he had the same thing I had from his position. I had no doubt I was right, but does a BLARGE make the crew look better or worse? They will forget 1 bad call, they will never forget a BLARGE.

JMO.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

I expected to get questioned about it.

I talked to my 3rd partner during a TO and he said he had the same thing I had from his position. I had no doubt I was right, but does a BLARGE make the crew look better or worse? They will forget 1 bad call, they will never forget a BLARGE.

Nope. They'll forget a blarge a heckuva lot quicker than they'll forget a completely wrong call. At least both teams get something out of a blarge, even though one team shouldn't. A wrong call just makes the whole crew look bad. And you deliberately letting a wrong call stand makes it even worse imo.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Nope. They'll forget a blarge a heckuva lot quicker than they'll forget a completely wrong call. At least both teams get something out of a blarge, even though one team shouldn't. A wrong call just makes the whole crew look bad. And you deliberately letting a wrong call stand makes it even worse imo.

The problem is that both officials in a blarge situation can feel they are completely correct.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

The problem is that both officials in a blarge situation can feel they are completely correct.

True, but if I'm sure that I'm completely correct and I'm in the process of making the call, then I'm still going to make that call. I won't say something lame like "I wasn't going to give the PC signal; I was just scratching my head."

[jalons]

I heard a story of a substate game (winner advances to the state tournament) last week where one official blarged himself! From the account I was given (I was not at the game), the defender stepped in front of the ball handler and may or may not have taken contact. The defender fell to the ground and the calling official blew his whistle, signaled a player control foul with one hand and a blocking foul with the other. I guess it took about five minutes for the crew to piece everything together before they reported a blarge.

And this guy was working the game based on recommendations from coaches...

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Nope. They'll forget a blarge a heckuva lot quicker than they'll forget a completely wrong call. At least both teams get something out of a blarge, even though one team shouldn't. A wrong call just makes the whole crew look bad. And you deliberately letting a wrong call stand makes it even worse imo.

First of all, who do you mean by "They"? Assignors? A "Blarge" call usually makes the rounds around the Ref gossip tree only slightly less quicker then an ejection. People have lost assignments b/c of a blarge. Coaches? I can speak on some authority on that. Most coaches would rather have the call go one way or the other. Sure one might be upset, but isn't that the case with about 90% of all our calls. Players? Well you may be correct there, they have a hard enough time remembering to keep their shirts tucked in!
Also, by having a blarge, you are doing exactly what you say you are trying to avoid in blue. You are deliberately letting a wrong call stand since only one of the offiicals can be correct.
NCAA-W handle the situation differently than NCAA-M and NFHS. IMO, the best way to avoid this situation is:
"Double whistles are good, double signals are bad".

[Terrapins Fan]

Originally Posted by judtech

first of all, who do you mean by "they"? Assignors? A "blarge" call usually makes the rounds around the ref gossip tree only slightly less quicker then an ejection. People have lost assignments b/c of a blarge. Coaches? I can speak on some authority on that. Most coaches would rather have the call go one way or the other. Sure one might be upset, but isn't that the case with about 90% of all our calls. Players? Well you may be correct there, they have a hard enough time remembering to keep their shirts tucked in!:d
also, by having a blarge, you are doing exactly what you say you are trying to avoid in blue. You are deliberately letting a wrong call stand since only one of the offiicals can be correct.
Ncaa-w handle the situation differently than ncaa-m and nfhs. Imo, the best way to avoid this situation is:
"double whistles are good, double signals are bad".

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