Nova / Syracuse rescinded intentional

[Rich]

Foul on a breakaway late. L calls an INT on a foul that has considerable contact. From my barstool I could see it going either way.

C gets with the L and they talk. Then they review on the monitor. Then they apparently rescinded the INT. Boheim was not happy.

Is this another case (I'm thinking about the blarge in the Wisconsin/PSU game yesterday) where officials just make it up as they go?

[Jurassic Referee]

I really can't blame Boheim on that one. The L definitely gave the intentional signal. I thought they were reviewing it to see if they should upgrade it to a flagrant. Instead, they wiped the intentional. I'm not sure how they could do that under NCAA rules.

Some wierd calls in that game.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I really can't blame Boheim on that one. The L definitely gave the intentional signal. I thought they were reviewing it to see if they should upgrade it to a flagrant. Instead, they wiped the intentional. I'm not sure how they could do that under NCAA rules.

Some wierd calls in that game.

That's my point. And I thought it was a perfectly appropriate intentional call, too. And the L clearly, *clearly* signaled the intentional.

My guess is that the C talked the L out of it and it was never reported to the table. Then they usedthe review to see if they should "upgrade" it back to an intentional or to a flagrant. If that's considered an OK way to back out of an intentional, well, what's the point of the preliminary signal in the first place?

I'd love to see Adams take on these calls.

[just another ref]

Apparently a signal is not considered binding. What a novel idea.

[stiffler3492]

I must have missed him signaling intentional. Syracuse ends up winning anyways, but I didn't realize you could rescind a call like that. Or can you? What's the NCAA theory on this?

[BktBallRef]

By rule, can they make that type of change after looking at the monitor?

Who were the officials?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

I must have missed him signaling intentional. Syracuse ends up winning anyways, but I didn't realize you could rescind a call like that. Or can you? What's the NCAA theory on this?

I just saw the replay again on ESPN. The L definitely gave the intentional signal.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Apparently a signal is not considered binding. What a novel idea.

"a signal" isn't. "two opposing signals" are.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

"a signal" isn't. "two opposing signals" are.

Which makes even less sense.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

And I thought it was a perfectly appropriate intentional call, too.

Me too. He blasted him on a layup.

[BktBallRef]

John Cahill, Michael Stephens, and Ed Corbett.

Cahill and Corbett have both worked National Championship games.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

John Cahill, Michael Stephens, and Ed Corbett.

Cahill and Corbett have both worked National Championship games.

You sure? I saw Jamie Luckie on the floor.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

That's my point. And I thought it was a perfectly appropriate intentional call, too. And the L clearly, *clearly* signaled the intentional.

My guess is that the C talked the L out of it and it was never reported to the table. Then they usedthe review to see if they should "upgrade" it back to an intentional or to a flagrant. If that's considered an OK way to back out of an intentional, well, what's the point of the preliminary signal in the first place?

I'd love to see Adams take on these calls.

If this is what they did then he would not be happy. He put out a video in which an official signalled a foul (apparent elbow foul) and then after replay review they rescinded the foul altogther. He didn't like that at all.

[upprdeck]

why did they not call the violation in the game when the Vill player reached over the end line and stopped the inbounds pass? Triche was asking for the call to be made. I dont think i have ever seen it called in a game and it happens all the time under the basket. in our local games this year we have had several times where the D has knocked the ball out of the in bounds players hands with no call.. seems like a pretty simple rule to enforce but seldom does.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by upprdeck

why did they not call the violation in the game when the Vill player reached over the end line and stopped the inbounds pass? Triche was asking for the call to be made. I dont think i have ever seen it called in a game and it happens all the time under the basket. in our local games this year we have had several times where the D has knocked the ball out of the in bounds players hands with no call.. seems like a pretty simple rule to enforce but seldom does.

Didn't see the play, so this is just a question: Did the defender reach across before or after the pass was released?

Also, WRT your local games; usually what happens when it's no-called is the thrower has reached the ball over the OOB plane.