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Old Mon Feb 21, 2011, 09:18pm
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Foul on a breakaway late. L calls an INT on a foul that has considerable contact. From my barstool I could see it going either way.

C gets with the L and they talk. Then they review on the monitor. Then they apparently rescinded the INT. Boheim was not happy.

Is this another case (I'm thinking about the blarge in the Wisconsin/PSU game yesterday) where officials just make it up as they go?
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Old Mon Feb 21, 2011, 09:34pm
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I really can't blame Boheim on that one. The L definitely gave the intentional signal. I thought they were reviewing it to see if they should upgrade it to a flagrant. Instead, they wiped the intentional. I'm not sure how they could do that under NCAA rules.

Some wierd calls in that game.
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It seemed as though they were searching for a camera angle that showed the official actually making the intentional foul signal, and they didn't find one.

The announcer seemed sure that an intentional was called. What if the official was going up to make the signal...then decided that he had better get a second opinion? The TV replays were inconclusive with what signal the official gave.
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Naw. The L definitely made the intentional signal. I can't believe he'd try to say anything different either.
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Old Mon Feb 21, 2011, 09:45pm
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I really can't blame Boheim on that one. The L definitely gave the intentional signal. I thought they were reviewing it to see if they should upgrade it to a flagrant. Instead, they wiped the intentional. I'm not sure how they could do that under NCAA rules.

Some wierd calls in that game.
That's my point. And I thought it was a perfectly appropriate intentional call, too. And the L clearly, *clearly* signaled the intentional.

My guess is that the C talked the L out of it and it was never reported to the table. Then they usedthe review to see if they should "upgrade" it back to an intentional or to a flagrant. If that's considered an OK way to back out of an intentional, well, what's the point of the preliminary signal in the first place?

I'd love to see Adams take on these calls.
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Apparently a signal is not considered binding. What a novel idea.
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I must have missed him signaling intentional. Syracuse ends up winning anyways, but I didn't realize you could rescind a call like that. Or can you? What's the NCAA theory on this?
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By rule, can they make that type of change after looking at the monitor?

Who were the officials?
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By rule, can they make that type of change after looking at the monitor?

Who were the officials?
From everything I read, they can upgrade a foul -- they cannot downgrade the foul. I'm sure Scrappy or another NCAAM official could confirm or refute this.
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Just saw the replay. The L clearly, though somewhat indecisively, went with the intentional. Maybe the C was stating that it was in 'his area' since it was on his side, but it probably was on the 'talking points dvd' in any event.
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I must have missed him signaling intentional. Syracuse ends up winning anyways, but I didn't realize you could rescind a call like that. Or can you? What's the NCAA theory on this?
I just saw the replay again on ESPN. The L definitely gave the intentional signal.
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From everything I read, they can upgrade a foul -- they cannot downgrade the foul. I'm sure Scrappy or another NCAAM official could confirm or refute this.
That's my understanding too. They sureashell downgraded this one though.
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And I thought it was a perfectly appropriate intentional call, too.
Me too. He blasted him on a layup.
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John Cahill, Michael Stephens, and Ed Corbett.

Cahill and Corbett have both worked National Championship games.
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John Cahill, Michael Stephens, and Ed Corbett.

Cahill and Corbett have both worked National Championship games.
You sure? I saw Jamie Luckie on the floor.
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