Louisiana Officials Possible Strike?

[just another ref]

Had makeup games tonight because schools were closed for icy road yesterday.
This school had also had home games on Tuesday. The principal made a point of telling me how much he appreciated us sticking it out during the stoppage. He went on to say he had voted against the pay raise at the last meeting, but he now intended to vote for it when it comes up again in the summer.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Had makeup games tonight because schools were closed for icy road yesterday.
This school had also had home games on Tuesday. The principal made a point of telling me how much he appreciated us sticking it out during the stoppage. He went on to say he had voted against the pay raise at the last meeting, but he now intended to vote for it when it comes up again in the summer.

I bet you really got that warm and fuzzy feeling when the principal told you how much he appreciated you screwing your fellow officials. It's just great that you're keeping all of those principals in your area so damn happy.

You really do have one helluva lot of conversations with principals, ADs and coaches, don't you, JAR?

Gee, you don't think that there might be a chance that that principal might now be voting for a pay raise because of the stoppage? Because some LA officials had the balls to say "enough is enough"? Naw, that couldn't be it, could it. It's probably because he personally likes you so damn much.

Did you also tell that principal that your association plans to decline any future pay raises that are gained in such a despicable manner? Just wondering. You guys do have the conviction of your principles, don't you?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I bet you really got that warm and fuzzy feeling when the principal told you how much he appreciated you screwing your fellow officials. It's just great that you're keeping all of those principals in your area so damn happy.

Principal and I were on the same page that when an agreement is in place to work for a certain price for a certain period that it should be honored. Apparently you don't understand/want to understand that idea.

You really do have one helluva lot of conversations with principals, ADs and coaches, don't you, JAR?

We're all just people. Communication is the key to a lot of things. One of the common criticisms of officials is that they are aloof and unreachable. You, on the other hand, are aloof and unreachable even to other officials here when we dare to disagree with you.

Gee, you don't think that there might be a chance that that principal might now be voting for a pay raise because of the stoppage?

Now you're calling a man a liar that you never met and have no idea who he is. Very nice.

Because some LA officials had the balls to say "enough is enough"?

The balls to say enough is enough, the balls to ignore an agreement which was signed with the other side........... po-tay-toe......po-tah-toe

Did you also tell that principal that your association plans to decline any future pay raises that are gained in such a despicable manner?

We have done nothing despicable. I, personally, do not believe the despicable actions of others to which you refer will gain us anything. I hope that the opposite is not the case.

[Freddy]

"All we are sa-a-a-y-y-ying.......... is give peace a chance........"

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Freddy

"All we are sa-a-a-y-y-ying.......... is give peace a chance........"

JR's knowledge of the rules is unquestioned. The strength of his convictions is admirable. His delivery could use some work.

[Jurassic Referee]

Ever consider changing your screen name to just another principal?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

JR's knowledge of the rules is unquestioned. The strength of his convictions is admirable. His delivery could use some work.

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Ever consider changing your screen name to just another principal?

good example

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Had makeup games tonight because schools were closed for icy road yesterday.
This school had also had home games on Tuesday. The principal made a point of telling me how much he appreciated us sticking it out during the stoppage. He went on to say he had voted against the pay raise at the last meeting, but he now intended to vote for it when it comes up again in the summer.

Is there a point that I am missing here?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

1. If a pay raise is accepted, the guys who didn't sit out can thank the ones who did.

2. If a pay raise is not accepted, the guys who sat out can thank the ones who didn't.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Is there a point that I am missing here?

This was the point. Snaq's (and others) thought that the walkout would cause principals to vote for the pay raise. This guy said that the opposite was the case. Was he lying in my face for some other reason?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

This was the point. Snaq's (and others) thought that the walkout would cause principals to vote for the pay raise. This guy said that the opposite was the case. Was he lying in my face for some other reason?

Naw, he was just petting you, rubbing your ears, patting your tummy and saying "good doggie". And by golly, it worked, didn't it?.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Naw, he was just petting you, rubbing your ears, patting your tummy and saying "good doggie". And by golly, it worked, didn't it?.

I am sorry but that is funny.

BTW, I have never had an extensive conversation with a Principle about anything officiating other than when I ejected a coach years ago. And that was only done because the form we file goes to the Principal of the school on every ejection (Special Report). Even former coaches that have turned into Principals I have never talked to them about anything other than where they were going to be if we needed them to get rid of some fans. I would never talk to them about pay in an extensive way. But obviously in LA they do things differently in more than choice of belt.

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

But obviously in LA they do things differently in more than choice of belt.

At $36 a game and a pay raise every 21 years, I'm surprised that they can even afford belts.

I wonder how many pay raises that JAR's ol' buddy, the principal, has had in the last 21 years.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

At $36 a game and a pay raise every 21 years, I'm surprised that they can even afford belts.

I wonder how many pay raises that JAR's ol' buddy, the principal, has had in the last 21 years.

They cannot afford the more expensive pants and get them hemmed that is for sure.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I would never talk to them about pay in an extensive way.

Yep, another good idea. Never talk extensively about pay to one of the guys who votes on whether you get your raise or not. That couldn't accomplish anything. Just stay home and refuse to work, even though you have an agreement in place to do so. That makes sense. Better yet, those guys should have walked out at halftime of the games on Tuesday. They'd probably have given us an immediate raise then.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Yep, another good idea. Never talk extensively about pay to one of the guys who votes on whether you get your raise or not. That couldn't accomplish anything. Just stay home and refuse to work, even though you have an agreement in place to do so. That makes sense. Better yet, those guys should have walked out at halftime of the games on Tuesday. They'd probably have given us an immediate raise then.

I did not say you couldn't talk to them, I said I do not see the reason why to talk to them. I am a President of an organization and I do not talk to any Principal about pay of officials. Then again I do not work in a system where the state can "price fix" what everyone does throughout a large state. And I would not know when or how I would get into that kind of conversation. I am not going to call them. I guess I would talk to them before a game, but not likely. That is usually what the AD is for. But then again this is why your state is the laughing stock in this area (as well as some mechanical things you have done over the years too). Then again, talk away and still get paid less than the person you are talking to for the time he/she is at the game. The fact you keep standing up for this crap is telling to me.

Peace