Louisiana Officials Possible Strike?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bisonpitcher

I will say that I have not gone more than 25 miles to officiate all season, so the travel is kind of a moot point for me.

Fifty miles one way back home. Was only twenty five miles from work (Don't tell the IRS). No mileage, but the $88.28 check (one game) seems fair.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Fifty miles one way back home. Was only twenty five miles from work (Don't tell the IRS). No mileage, but the $88.28 check (one game) seems fair.

Billy, do you guys ever work more than one game? And, if so, does the fee double, or is the rate cut for the second game?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Billy, do you guys ever work more than one game? And, if so, does the fee double, or is the rate cut for the second game?

For high school varsity games, never. Schools will seldom schedule the boys/girls varsity doubleheaders that I see other Forum members posting about. Also, when these rare doubleheaders are scheduled, or when high school Holiday Tournament varsity doubleheaders are scheduled, different crews get the assignments.

The most common type of doubleheaders assigned are 4:00 p.m. freshman games followed by 5:30 p.m. junior varsity games. One, or both, of the freshman officials may stay at the site for the junior varsity assignment. This is because we do not have a lot of available officials for midafternoon games. Most of them have day jobs, and can't make the 4:00 p.m. start. When our officials do work said doubleheader, they get two full game fees. (Two subvarsity fees, $57.25 + $57.25 = $114.50)

When I work for my Catholic middle school assigner, he will cut the rate for a boys/girls varsity (eighth grade) doubleheader, which are almost always assigned as a doubleheader. For example, I have one of these varsity (seven minute periods) doubleheaders tonight. I will walk out with a check for $84.00. One of our Catholic schools does not field a girls varsity team. We will work a single boys varsity game when that school is involved in an assignment, and will walk out of those games with a check for $54.00.

[bisonpitcher]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

For high school varsity games, never. Schools will seldom schedule the boys/girls varsity doubleheaders that I see other Forum members posting about. Also, when these rare doubleheaders are scheduled, or when high school Holiday Tournament varsity doubleheaders are scheduled, different crews get the assignments.

The most common type of doubleheaders assigned are 4:00 p.m. freshman games followed by 5:30 p.m. junior varsity games. One, or both, of the freshman officials may stay at the site for the junior varsity assignment. This is because we do not have a lot of available officials for midafternoon games. Most of them have day jobs, and can't make the 4:00 p.m. start. When our officials do work said doubleheader, they get two full game fees. (Two subvarsity fees, $57.25 + $57.25 = $114.50)

When I work for my Catholic middle school assigner, he will cut the rate for a boys/girls varsity (eighth grade) doubleheader, which are almost always assigned as a doubleheader. For example, I have one of these varsity (seven minute periods) doubleheaders tonight. I will walk out with a check for $84.00. One of our Catholic schools does not field a girls varsity team. We will work a single boys varsity game when that school is involved in an assignment, and will walk out of those games with a check for $54.00.

All HS games are DH here. Actually 4 games, JV B/G with one crew, V G/B with another crew. One conference plays at 3:30, 4:45, 6:00 and 7:30, while the other conference plays at 4:00, 5:15, 6:30 and 8. Freshman teams usually play the same team on the road when V/JV are at home on the same day. Middle schools play 4 games starting at 4:30 and Middle school JV plays on Saturdays 2-3 games per Saturday (5 games for the officials at 8 Saturday Morning).

[SCalScoreKeeper]

In our league we schedule doubleheaders.One crew does JV boys and girls while the other varsity boys and girls.Our tip off times are 3,4:30,6,and 7:30.Middle school basketball here is a spring sport so the teams get to use the gym for practice too!

[just another ref]

Had makeup games tonight because schools were closed for icy road yesterday.
This school had also had home games on Tuesday. The principal made a point of telling me how much he appreciated us sticking it out during the stoppage. He went on to say he had voted against the pay raise at the last meeting, but he now intended to vote for it when it comes up again in the summer.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Had makeup games tonight because schools were closed for icy road yesterday.
This school had also had home games on Tuesday. The principal made a point of telling me how much he appreciated us sticking it out during the stoppage. He went on to say he had voted against the pay raise at the last meeting, but he now intended to vote for it when it comes up again in the summer.

I bet you really got that warm and fuzzy feeling when the principal told you how much he appreciated you screwing your fellow officials. It's just great that you're keeping all of those principals in your area so damn happy.

You really do have one helluva lot of conversations with principals, ADs and coaches, don't you, JAR?

Gee, you don't think that there might be a chance that that principal might now be voting for a pay raise because of the stoppage? Because some LA officials had the balls to say "enough is enough"? Naw, that couldn't be it, could it. It's probably because he personally likes you so damn much.

Did you also tell that principal that your association plans to decline any future pay raises that are gained in such a despicable manner? Just wondering. You guys do have the conviction of your principles, don't you?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Had makeup games tonight because schools were closed for icy road yesterday.
This school had also had home games on Tuesday. The principal made a point of telling me how much he appreciated us sticking it out during the stoppage. He went on to say he had voted against the pay raise at the last meeting, but he now intended to vote for it when it comes up again in the summer.

Is there a point that I am missing here?

[APG]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Had makeup games tonight because schools were closed for icy road yesterday.
This school had also had home games on Tuesday. The principal made a point of telling me how much he appreciated us sticking it out during the stoppage. He went on to say he had voted against the pay raise at the last meeting, but he now intended to vote for it when it comes up again in the summer.

Reading this, it seems to me that the walk out helped change the principal's mind. At the very least it could of brought to light how unhappy some officials are about the embarrassingly low pay they receive.

But seeing as how it was only 4 of the local chapters, and given your state association's track record, I'd bet a pay raise isn't coming soon.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Fifty miles one way back home. Was only twenty five miles from work (Don't tell the IRS). No mileage, but the $88.28 check (one game) seems fair.

You've already told them at least twice, this week alone.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

You've already told them at least twice, this week alone.

So I better post that I always forget my bag at home, and always have to stop at home to get my bag.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

So I better post that I always forget my bag at home, and always have to stop at home to get my bag.

Tell it to the judge.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Tell it to the judge.

Do you think they would use those traffic cameras along the highway as evidence, like they always do on Law and Order?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Fifty miles one way back home. Was only twenty five miles from work (Don't tell the IRS). No mileage, but the $88.28 check (one game) seems fair.

Most nights, my travel takes the opposite pattern. As many as 70 miles to the game, then 15 miles home.