Louisiana Officials Possible Strike?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Sports are about the kids.

If sports are really about the kids in LA, I wonder if the coachs, AD's, principals and the clown who wrote this article would voluntarily and happily go for 17 years without having a pay raise.

Just wondering.....

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

If sports are really about the kids in LA, I wonder if the coachs, AD's, principals and the clown who wrote this article would voluntarily and happily go for 17 years without having a pay raise.

Just wondering.....

Funny I have lost more games to Teacher's strikes and contract disputes than I ever had over a dispute with my money. But it is about the kids. That always cracks me up when someone says that I must do something for the kids as an official that will never see many of these kids again, but the people that see them everyday and know them by first name are exempt from that process.

Peace

[Rich]

When someone uses "It's for the kids" I know that whatever opinion comes out after that is likely to be discarded.

When I see teachers striking or "working to rule" I wonder if it's "about the kids" then, too.

I wonder how many raises the teachers, administrators, and coaches have received in the last 21 years. I'll bet it's more than zero.

But, hey, we're hired help subservient to all those people.

I still think the LA officials should've let those people work their games the rest of this season. I bet the playoffs would be ones to remember.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I wonder how many raises the teachers, administrators, and coaches have received in the last 21 years. I'll bet it's more than zero.

We actually last had a raise in 07. Apparently the last one before that must have been 21 years ago.

[APG]

Originally Posted by just another ref

We actually last had a raise in 07. Apparently the last one before that must have been 21 years ago.

Y'all were getting paid even less than you are now?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

We actually last had a raise in 07. Apparently the last one before that must have been 21 years ago.

I have worked in conferences that have raised the rates they pay almost every year since 07 and a year or two before that and we have had 3 Person for years.

There is only one conference that I worked where the fees dropped. And it was mostly because some teams merged with each other to form a larger conference and some schools were from the Chicago area and the other schools were outside the Chicago area and there was a difference in what the merging schools were paying in their respective conferences. And the assignor that assigned the schools that were not in the Chicago area and now were joining the conference has told everyone that "I will lose officials because of pay."

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Y'all were getting paid even less than you are now?

yep

[Adam]

The thing is, if the schools had given raises to the officials when times weren't so lean, it may have bought them some good will for these lean times.

I'm with Rich, "for the kids" is typically just a canard meant to shut down the debate through guilt.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The thing is, if the schools had given raises to the officials when times weren't so lean, it may have bought them some good will for these lean times.

I'm with Rich, "for the kids" is typically just a canard meant to shut down the debate through guilt.

Public schoolteacher salaries are typically public record. If I were the officials, I would've had these numbers at hand whenever anyone suggested officials should work for the same amount of money or get one raise in 21 years.

[APG]

Originally Posted by just another ref

yep

Let me ask you this, how do you propose your brethren in Louisiana go about getting higher wages? It's obvious you don't agree with how those in the four chapters went about it. What makes you think that your state association will give you a raise given their history? I could understand not giving a raise with how the economy currently is, but your state association has shown to be content even during times of good economic health.

There's no way I should be able to make more for one JV game than a three man varsity game. Someone there has dropped the ball big time.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

There's no way I should be able to make more for one JV game than a three man varsity game. Someone there has dropped the ball big time.

No way? Well that is pretty much the case here. The varsity games which are much more likely to be revenue generators make more money than a single lower level game in most cases. Of course many lower level games are not stand alone games and you can work 2 games and make more in a night, but there should be an incentive to work the higher level ball and for guys to get better. One way to do that is in pay.

Peace

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

No way? Well that is pretty much the case here. The varsity games which are much more likely to be revenue generators make more money than a single lower level game in most cases. Of course many lower level games are not stand alone games and you can work 2 games and make more in a night, but there should be an incentive to work the higher level ball and for guys to get better. One way to do that is in pay.

Peace

Before the changes in VT, the $100 varsity fee was split 3 ways. [I think most schools went with $34 apiece]. As a JV/Frosh official, I received $30. There were grumblings, but the VT Principals Assn went to bat for the officials and the 3 for the price of 2 went away. Sounds like the bat is being used differently down there.

[APG]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

No way? Well that is pretty much the case here. The varsity games which are much more likely to be revenue generators make more money than a single lower level game in most cases. Of course many lower level games are not stand alone games and you can work 2 games and make more in a night, but there should be an incentive to work the higher level ball and for guys to get better. One way to do that is in pay.

Peace

I don't get what you're saying. Are you saying one should be able to earn more working one JV game than working one varsity game? In case there was confusion, I'm saying that one should earn more working a varsity game than a JV game. In the case of Louisiana, I could earn more working one JV game locally than a varsity game in Louisiana.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by just another ref

yep

Are your officials/associations already contracted for the Play Offs? Because, sitting those out would DEF. be a big bargaining chip!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I don't get what you're saying. Are you saying one should be able to earn more working one JV game than working one varsity game? In case there was confusion, I'm saying that one should earn more working a varsity game than a JV game. In the case of Louisiana, I could earn more working one JV game locally than a varsity game in Louisiana.

I am sorry, I misread what you said orginally and I did not pay attention to the pay scale.

So we agree. Read too fast.

Peace