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[Adam]

Hmmm, I wasn't thinking in terms of last second (not sure why, so don't ask.) 5-2-5 says nothing about multiple touches, it only says a player can't gain control. I'm not sure you can discount the basket if the last touch happens before the horn sounds.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Guess you didn't read it the first time.

The rule states with .3 or less, a player (meaning one player) can tap the ball and acore. It does not say two players can tap the ball and still score.

Actually, Tony, I read it the first time...before you edited it...and I thought you were arguing TO ALLOW the basket. You stated, correctly, that "it does not say two players CANNOT tap the ball and still score."

You are also, correctly, now stating that "it does not say two players CAN tap the ball and still score."

...I with Snaq's...HMMMMM...

Having said that...I'm probably NOT allowing the basket because I had some kind of count on.

[Adam]

All the rule says is that a player cannot gain control, and that only a tap can score. If the two taps are close enough together, I see no reason to disallow the basket.

I also would have a count, and if I get to "one thousand" in my mind between taps, no basket.

[RookieDude]

I guess you can say per 5-2-5:

"In this situation only A tap could score."

A meaning singular as opposed to plural?

Edit: Of course the first touch may not have been a tap?

[Adam]

You could say that, but even without your edit, I think it's a stretch to think the rules committee was that precise on purpose here.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Having said that...I'm probably NOT allowing the basket because I had some kind of count on.

How the he11 do you count 0.2 seconds?

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Smitty

How the he11 do you count 0.2 seconds?

I'm not even going to respond to that......you figure it out.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

I'm not even going to respond to that......you figure it out.

Your rolled eyes notwithstanding, I'm just curious how you'll be justifying it to the coach when he asks why you disallowed the basket that went in before the horn sounded. You gonna say you counted 0.2 seconds in your head?

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Smitty

How the he11 do you count 0.2 seconds?

Actually, and I can't believe I'm the only one to pick up on this, the thread title said 0.02 seconds. We just talked about tenths of seconds on another thread, but never in my life have I seen a clock with hundreths of seconds!

Let's hope that never evolves.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Your rolled eyes notwithstanding, I'm just curious how you'll be justifying it to the coach when he asks why you disallowed the basket that went in before the horn sounded. You gonna say you counted 0.2 seconds in your head?

I'm not answering for RD, but I would start a count and when I get to 1, game over.

Same concept as if there were 3.2 seconds on the clock. I count to 4.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm not answering for RD, but I would start a count and when I get to 1, game over.

Same concept as if there were 3.2 seconds on the clock. I count to 4.

Bingo...I wonder if the makes sense now...it's gotta be my handle...I am declaring that I AM NOT a RookieDude anymore...

I AM NOW DAN...with 21 years officiating experience...and still learning!

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Bingo...I wonder if the makes sense now...it's gotta be my handle...I am declaring that I AM NOT a RookieDude anymore...

I AM NOW DAN...with 21 years officiating experience...and still learning!

I love the snarkiness of people on this site who write things without clarifying and then think anyone who doesn't understand what they meant is a moron. I don't really care how many years of experience you have - if you can't express yourself very well, that's not my problem.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

The rule states with .3 or less, a player (meaning one player) can tap the ball and acore. It does not say two players can tap the ball and still score.

It also doesn't say two players can't tap the ball and score.

If the taps are sufficiently close together such that the time from the first touch to the final touch is less than 0.3, the shot counts. If the final touch is by the defense, only the first tap must beat the 0.3 time.

The only thing this rule is intended to preclude is a catch and shoot.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm not answering for RD, but I would start a count and when I get to 1, game over.

Same concept as if there were 3.2 seconds on the clock. I count to 4.

Fair enough. But what if you don't get to 1?

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I love the snarkiness of people on this site who write things without clarifying and then think anyone who doesn't understand what they meant is a moron. I don't really care how many years of experience you have - if you can't express yourself very well, that's not my problem.

...fair enough...

but, aren't you the one that started your sentence with "How the He11"...

seems kinda, how do you say it? Snarky to me...just saying.