I have no idea

[fullor30]

BV tonight. They paid homage to tomorrow's bears packer game with plenty of rough house stuff, but that's for another post.

I'm at table before game and visiting coach tells me he's going to use his delay game by lining up 4 players side by side, right on sideline facing stands and pass ball to each other and continue to run clock.

As a crew, we decided at half if he attempts this and defender/defenders are within closely guarded 6 feet we would call a violation, regardless of player handing to each other as they are being closely guarded without a 'break'.

Thankfully they won going away so didn't need to make a call. I'm really puzzled on this one. I know I've seen or heard this before

I just got home and haven't looked at case or rule book, thought I'd throw it out here.



I've seen this somewhere and can't recall. What say you???

[BktBallRef]

9.10.1 SITUATION D:

Team A, while in possession of the ball in its frontcourt: (a) positions four players parallel with the sideline and they pass the ball from one to another with their arms reaching beyond the sideline plane; or (b) has four teammates surround dribbler A1. In both (a) and (b), the opponents are unable to get close to the ball.

RULING: This is considered to be a closely-guarded situation and a violation in five seconds in both (a) and (b), if any B player is within 6 feet of the ball or within 6 feet of the screening teammates and is attempting to gain control of the ball. Preventing opponents from getting to the ball by using screening teammates becomes a violation in five seconds if the opponents are attempting to gain control.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

9.10.1 SITUATION D:

Team A, while in possession of the ball in its frontcourt: (a) positions four players parallel with the sideline and they pass the ball from one to another with their arms reaching beyond the sideline plane; or (b) has four teammates surround dribbler A1. In both (a) and (b), the opponents are unable to get close to the ball.

RULING: This is considered to be a closely-guarded situation and a violation in five seconds in both (a) and (b), if any B player is within 6 feet of the ball or within 6 feet of the screening teammates and is attempting to gain control of the ball. Preventing opponents from getting to the ball by using screening teammates becomes a violation in five seconds if the opponents are attempting to gain control.

XXX..............I knew it, just couldn't shake cobwebs. can't wait to email coach!!!

[refiator]

Originally Posted by fullor30

BV tonight. They paid homage to tomorrow's bears packer game with plenty of rough house stuff, but that's for another post.

I'm at table before game and visiting coach tells me he's going to use his delay game by lining up 4 players side by side, right on sideline facing stands and pass ball to each other and continue to run clock.

As a crew, we decided at half if he attempts this and defender/defenders are within closely guarded 6 feet we would call a violation, regardless of player handing to each other as they are being closely guarded without a 'break'.

Thankfully they won going away so didn't need to make a call. I'm really puzzled on this one. I know I've seen or heard this before

I just got home and haven't looked at case or rule book, thought I'd throw it out here.



I've seen this somewhere and can't recall. What say you???

Strange. Watching for closely guarded is about all you can do.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by fullor30

. . . use his delay game by lining up 4 players side by side, right on sideline facing stands and pass ball to each other and continue to run clock.

Had a team do this just yesterday. Two schools around here pull that out of the bag a couple of times each year. Easy call to make. This time the defense had the patience enough not to intentionally foul and the five seconds closely guarded call was not challenged.

[SAJ]

could 10.1.5 apply also?

[SNIPERBBB]

Not if you call the five second violation.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by SAJ

could 10.1.5 apply also?

Note: When you use periods, as in "10.1.5", people are going to check the case book because that's how they're numbered. If you use dashes, as in "10-1-5", they'll know you're talking about the rule book, because that's how the rule book is numbered. You can use whichever way you want, but if you want us to know what you're talking about, it's better to follow the standards.

Now, 10-1-5 can't be used because there's a specific case play that tells you to simply count to 5 and call the violation. Chances are, it may well lead to 10-4-1a technical foul from the head coach.