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hoopsaddict Thu Jan 20, 2011 02:57pm

0.02 Seconds left
 
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jdw3018 Thu Jan 20, 2011 03:01pm

B3's tap is not considered a try. If the period ends before the ball passes into the basket (which it certainly would with 2 tenths on the clock), the ball immediately becomes dead and no goal is counted.

Mark Padgett Thu Jan 20, 2011 03:01pm

Based on how you describe it, you are correct. It is not a legal try therefore the ball becomes dead on the horn. There is no "shot".

Adam Thu Jan 20, 2011 03:03pm

You are correct, and for the correct reason.

bob jenkins Thu Jan 20, 2011 03:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsaddict (Post 719584)
What do you have?

I have a little difficulty folowing the play, but your analysis is correct. B3's touching is not a try, so the period ends when the horn sounds and a dead ball went through the basket -- no points.

You could use 6.7.6A as an example.

Adam Thu Jan 20, 2011 03:05pm

Case play 6.7.6A is close, in that it's not a try and time expires.

M&M Guy Thu Jan 20, 2011 03:10pm

You are also correct that the same play that happens with 3 minutes left counts, because the rule states that points are scored when a live ball passes through the basket. Notice it doesn't say when a "try" passes through the basket. That's where the other side of the disagreement was confused - there is a difference between what happens with a "try" and a "live ball". In the case of a try in the air, the ball does not become dead on the horn, but the horn does make a live ball dead immediately.

letemplay Thu Jan 20, 2011 03:14pm

Another twist
 
The long pass hits B3 (as in OP) but then also is tipped by A5 and goes in after horn?

RookieDude Thu Jan 20, 2011 03:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by letemplay (Post 719596)
The long pass hits B3 (as in OP) but then also is tipped by A5 and goes in after horn?

...with .02 seconds left? Is chseagle running the clock? (Sorry eagleman...j/k) ;)

Adam Thu Jan 20, 2011 03:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by letemplay (Post 719596)
The long pass hits B3 (as in OP) but then also is tipped by A5 and goes in after horn?

Judgment call. Was A5's tip an attempt to score?

BktBallRef Thu Jan 20, 2011 03:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by letemplay (Post 719596)
The long pass hits B3 (as in OP) but then also is tipped by A5 and goes in after horn?


The rule states with .3 or less, a player (meaning one player) can tap the ball and acore. It does not say two players can tap the ball and still score.

letemplay Thu Jan 20, 2011 03:20pm

Yes, that was how A drew the play up. Their only chance is a long pass from A1 to A5 for a tip. Wrench in plan is B3 gets a hand on it first, followed by A5's tap. Could we have two touches in .02?

BktBallRef Thu Jan 20, 2011 03:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by letemplay (Post 719602)
Yes, that was how A drew the play up. Their only chance is a long pass from A1 to A5 for a tip. Wrench in plan is B3 gets a hand on it first, followed by A5's tap. Could we have two touches in .02?

Guess you didn't read it the first time.

The rule states with .3 or less, a player (meaning one player) can tap the ball and acore. It does not say two players can tap the ball and still score.

letemplay Thu Jan 20, 2011 03:35pm

So if the defense happened to get his hand on it first, even a glancing touch, then A5 tips it in, we got no basket, ruling a double touch?

jdw3018 Thu Jan 20, 2011 03:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by letemplay (Post 719610)
So if the defense happened to get his hand on it first, even a glancing touch, then A5 tips it in, we got no basket, ruling a double touch?

It doesn't matter whether the tap was glancing or not - by rule, with under .3 seconds to play, there is only time for one player to tap the ball.


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