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[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by bigdog5142

Coach was complaining about just about every call, but nothing too huge. I ignored all comments.

Taking care of business means dealing with this howler monkey before he becomes a candidate for ABS. These situations suck, because we're essentially playing babysitter to an adult, but meh, we get paid well.

[jeffpea]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

I had one the other night where from 60 feet away the coach knew it was a foul and I am 5 feet from the play.

I explained that there was no way he could see a foul from where he was, when I am 5 feet from the play and I didn't see a foul.

Coach said " that's the problem, you didn't see the foul"

How can you win? The player going to the basket clearly tried to avoid the contact to get his shot off and did.

"Coach, officiating is all about getting the correct angle. When you're in position to see the whole play, you'll get it right almost 100% of the time. When you're out of position...you're just guessing. Who do you think was in better position to see that play...you @ 60 ft away...or me @ 5ft?"

try that next time....OR...

"Coach did you see that play? (YES)...then you know it was a foul, you really can't complain about it, can you."
"Coach did you see that play? (Not Really)...then you really can't complain about it, can you?"

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

I had one the other night where from 60 feet away the coach knew it was a foul and I am 5 feet from the play.

How did he phrase the question?

[bigdog5142]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Taking care of business means dealing with this howler monkey before he becomes a candidate for ABS. These situations suck, because we're essentially playing babysitter to an adult, but meh, we get paid well.

Yeah...you're right. I probably should've told him enough was enough earlier. I did let him know that I am more than happy to answer questions...guess he didn't get the point that comments aren't welcome.

Should've given the stop sign earlier, before he got to the automatic trigger of questioning integrity...

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

"Coach did you see that play? (YES)...then you know it was a foul, you really can't complain about it, can you."
"Coach did you see that play? (Not Really)...then you really can't complain about it, can you?"

Consider that stolen.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

"Coach, officiating is all about getting the correct angle. When you're in position to see the whole play, you'll get it right almost 100% of the time. When you're out of position...you're just guessing. Who do you think was in better position to see that play...you @ 60 ft away...or me @ 5ft?"

try that next time....OR...

"Coach did you see that play? (YES)...then you know it was a foul, you really can't complain about it, can you."
"Coach did you see that play? (Not Really)...then you really can't complain about it, can you?"

In real life you'll get this....

"Coach, did you see that play?"
"Yes, and you screwed it up completely."

And now you have to deal with that, one way or another.

If you really think that any coach is ever gonna admit that he didn't see a play he was whining about ("not really"), it's time to give up those pre-game funny cigarettes.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

In real life you'll get this....

"Coach, did you see that play?"
"Yes, and you screwed it up completely."

And now you have to deal with that, one way or another.

If you really think that any coach is ever gonna admit that he didn't see a play he was whining about ("not really"), it's time to give up those pre-game funny cigarettes.

My point a few messages up is that if the coach doesn't ask a question, why even bother responding? The official knows the coach is 60 feet away, the coach knows he's 60 feet away. I'd rather just let it go -- if he repeats it a second or third time, then a quick, "You know, I had a pretty good look all the way down there" and then get the hell out of Dodge.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

My point a few messages up is that if the coach doesn't ask a question, why even bother responding? The official knows the coach is 60 feet away, the coach knows he's 60 feet away. I'd rather just let it go -- if he repeats it a second or third time, then a quick, "You know, I had a pretty good look all the way down there" and then get the hell out of Dodge.

And you are wise beyond your years imo. A simple nod of the head sometimes just to indicate to the coach that you heard him might suffice on some occasions also. And once you get away from the coach, if he wants to give you instant replay when you get near him next, hey, then that's on him.

We can get ourselves into trouble sometimes with our over-active mouths.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

"Coach, officiating is all about getting the correct angle. When you're in position to see the whole play, you'll get it right almost 100% of the time. When you're out of position...you're just guessing. Who do you think was in better position to see that play...you @ 60 ft away...or me @ 5ft?"

try that next time....OR...

"Coach did you see that play? (YES)...then you know it was a foul, you really can't complain about it, can you."
"Coach did you see that play? (Not Really)...then you really can't complain about it, can you?"

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

Consider that stolen.

Don't be so quick to steal it. I had a supervisor at a game observe me call a travel followed by the coach saying "that's wasn't a travel". My supervisor told me he saw me respond with "that was a travel" (which is what I did say). ]

My supervisor said I shouldn't be so intent on being right b/c the game film might come back to bite you in the a$$ one day. He said either don't respond or ask a question like "did I miss it?" or "what did you see?".

Of course that's just his opinion (based on his own experiences), but since he is giving me games you best believe I will adhere to that advice.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And once you get away from the coach, if he wants to give you instant replay when you get near him next, hey, then that's on him.

"Coach, I'm not here for a history lesson."