Things I hate

[cmhjordan23]

Officials that blow their whistle on my OOB call. Happens numerous times. Usually when I am the lead. Ball bounces in bounds near end line, going out but has not hit anything yet. Trail blows whistle. Why? Same when I am lead on right side of court, errant pass goes OOB sideline. I am clearly in position to make the call. Trail blows whistle prematurely. Why do some officials do this? I do not have a regular partner, do I say something to him and hope they don't do it again. It's not like it has an affect on the game.

[Freddy]

Rather than having to say something after the fact, how 'bout if you include "which OB lines we each cover" in your pregame--the visual aid of a court diagram will all the more seal the concept.
And while you're at it, be sure to cover which partner signals the three point attempt where outside the arc. That way the "having two guys signalling a three attempt" will more readily be avoided.

[JRutledge]

You will have to ask those officials who you deal with why they do it. No one here is going to really know for sure unless they are doing it. And since I know of no one that does this other than having a complete brain fart or the ball is in the corner, my guess is no better than your guess.

Peace

[Adam]

I had one game last season where I couldn't keep from doing this. The only explanation I have is that I wasn't mentally ready for that game due to showing up late because of traffic. I walked into the gym with 55 seconds left in the previous game.

What level games is this happening to you on a regular basis, because I agree with Rut; it's not typical at the high school level around here.

[cmhjordan23]

It usually happens during middle school games. These are officials that do high school also. It only happens when it is clearly OOB and they think it the whistle should be blown but has not become dead yet.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by cmhjordan23

It usually happens during middle school games. These are officials that do high school also. It only happens when it is clearly OOB and they think it the whistle should be blown but has not become dead yet.

That explains a lot. Despite what people say about middle school, these games are often warm body games. Anyone that is willing to do them will and often can and you get what you get. I am sure that is not drastically different where you live as I am sure games at other levels are held on different nights and either the most experienced guys do not want to work that game or they are not very experienced. Just have a good pregame and talk about these things and hope it does not happen again. But if it does it is not the end of the world.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Over the past few years, our local board, and I believe, our state board, has switched from NFHS mechanics, to IAABO mechanics, without much fanfare. Rookie officials have only had instruction in IAABO mechanics. Veteran officials are only familiar with the old NFHS mechanics where the lead has the nearest sideline all the way back to the backcourt endline. As a result of this generational gap, and the confusion regarding out of bounds responsibilities, the following was announced at our last meeting, hoping to get everyone on the same page. Keep in mind that Connecticut is the "Land of Two Person Games".

When Trail is not across the basketline: Lead had frontcourt endline, and nearer sideline back to the division line.
Trail has nearer sideline, division line, and all three backcourt boundaries.

When Trail is across the basketline: Lead had frontcourt endline, and nearer sideline to the free throw line extended.
Trail has nearer sideline, farther sideline above free throw line extended, division line, and all three backcourt
boundaries.

During transition, press, and press break, situations, the Lead, hanging back to help, will have out of bounds
responsibilities on the entire nearer sideline.

How are other boards, or associations, handling these out of bounds responsibilities?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by cmhjordan23

It usually happens during middle school games. These are officials that do high school also. It only happens when it is clearly OOB and they think it the whistle should be blown but has not become dead yet.

Well, if it's clearly OOB, it should be blown because the ball is dead. I'm not sure what you mean by that.

[bbcof83]

Originally Posted by cmhjordan23

It usually happens during middle school games. These are officials that do high school also. It only happens when it is clearly OOB and they think it the whistle should be blown but has not become dead yet.

Sounds like they think you missed it. Are you EXTREMELY late on your OB whistle? The only time I might do this is if I absolutely have no trust in my partner in a lower level game. Even then, to blow as the T on an endline call is unheard of.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bbcof83

Sounds like they think you missed it. Are you EXTREMELY late on your OB whistle? The only time I might do this is if I absolutely have no trust in my partner in a lower level game. Even then, to blow as the T on an endline call is unheard of.

If he's caught up with some post action and it goes OOB in the other corner, I might (as C or 2-man T) have a very late whistle on this. But it will have bounced a couple of times in the bleachers before I do it. Very rare? Yes. Unheard of? Not really.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

When Trail is not across the basketline: Lead had frontcourt endline, and nearer sideline back to the division line.
Trail has nearer sideline, division line, and all three backcourt boundaries.

When Trail is across the basketline: Lead had frontcourt endline, and nearer sideline to the free throw line extended.
Trail has nearer sideline, farther sideline above free throw line extended, division line, and all three backcourt
boundaries.

Unless the official is tracking the ball such that they go all the way across the court to/near the far sideline, there is no way they can accurately tell if a player stepped or dribbled on the line or not unless the player stepped/dribbled WAY across the line.

To accurately call any close line call, the official must be in a position to look down the line.

It may not happen often in the backcourt situation but it not uncommon for there to be frontcourt sideline plays above the FT line.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by cmhjordan23

Things I hate.

It's this some kind of bizarro Julie Andrews song?

[Judtech]

I hate when that little metal thing breaks on the zippers on our pants. Not the zippers themselves, but the metal piece you zip up with. You would THINK they would make them reinforced or something. I mean at least if the zipper itself breaks I can say, Gosh need to lose a few pounds, but when the metal tab thing breaks, what can you do? Ugh

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Judtech

I hate when that little metal thing breaks on the zippers on our pants. Not the zippers themselves, but the metal piece you zip up with. You would THINK they would make them reinforced or something. I mean at least if the zipper itself breaks I can say, Gosh need to lose a few pounds, but when the metal tab thing breaks, what can you do? Ugh

I suppose you could carry a safety pin along with your inflating needle.

[Judtech]

Oh I do, trust me learned the difficult way years ago.

And by inflating needle you mean............