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Old Mon Jan 10, 2011, 12:49pm
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No I wasn't I was going by the OP and 1 assumption based on years of playing, coaching and officiating. Albeit my assumption does have margin for error but how the question was posed and from past experiences I came to my assumption that it was player frustration that they lost their 2 point lead at the buzzer. If its for an unsporting act then I am wrong in my assumption.
The questions I read were:

When do you shoot the Free Throws?
Are they part of the 4th quarter?
Or does OT begin with shooting the Free throws?
Is there a jump Ball?

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Old Mon Jan 10, 2011, 12:54pm
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I agree with whats been said and I didn't mean to crap on the officials decision, i believe the OP's questions were answered and I didn't intend on my opinion of the call to stir up such a discussion.

shoot em in OT and the T determines who starts with the ball and the possession arrow.
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Old Mon Jan 10, 2011, 03:06pm
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This site is "more believable" than the case book?

In NCAA, the T is still shot as part of the OT. In NCAAW, we would then go to the POI, which is the jump ball to resume the OT.



Kid has a right to be unhappy. S/he needs to learn to express it appropriately.
This play was a discussion amongst a few officials. To DeeCee, the official did believe that the action was worth a 'T'. So, while we are in discussion, I get out the case book and read the words from the book. An official responds back, 'I'll have to read the rule book, because there is a rule that contradicts this case play'
YES! This site can be more believable, as well as it supports the Rule and Case book.
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Old Mon Jan 10, 2011, 03:43pm
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Zooch, the 4th qtr. ended when the horn sounded. The score is tied, so OT is required.

The T came after the horn, so the OT is started with the FTs and A gets the ball for the throw-in. No jump ball.
Nitpick: I believe the 4th quarter ended when try ended, which was when the ball passed completely through the ring and net.
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Nitpick: I believe the 4th quarter ended when try ended, which was when the ball passed completely through the ring and net.
Or the ball remained 'live' until it passed through the net completely. The period ended on the horn. Otherwise, any fouls that occurred after the horn, but before the ball became dead, would need to be considered.
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Old Mon Jan 10, 2011, 04:11pm
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Or the ball remained 'live' until it passed through the net completely. The period ended on the horn. Otherwise, any fouls that occurred after the horn, but before the ball became dead, would need to be considered.
Why wouldn't you consider such fouls at the end of a period. You'd consider them on any other shot. Wouldn't you?

Each quarter or extra period ends when the signal illuminates or sounds indicating time has expired, as in 1-14.
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1. If the ball is in flight during a try or tap for field goal, the quarter or extra period
ends when the try or tap ends.

The try ends when the throw is successful, when it is certain the throw is unsuccessful, when the thrown ball touches the floor or when the ball becomes dead.
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Or the ball remained 'live' until it passed through the net completely. The period ended on the horn. Otherwise, any fouls that occurred after the horn, but before the ball became dead, would need to be considered.
5-6-2 exception 1
The quarter is over when the try ends.
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5-6-2 exception 1
The quarter is over when the try ends.
I'm surprised nobody posted that before now.
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I'm surprised nobody posted that before now.
Someone plagiarist posted it, but failed to provide references.
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I hate when that happens. Where's JR and his 2x4 when you need him?
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I hate when that happens. Where's JR and his 2x4 when you need him?
Last I saw of him, he was headed out to smack some jacka...errrr, "donkey" right between the eyes.
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I hate when that happens. Where's JR and his 2x4 when you need him?
One should exercise caution not to do damage in this situation. To the 2x4, I mean. It's worth more than the donkey.
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Last I saw of him, he was headed out to smack some jacka...errrr, "donkey" right between the eyes.
Oh no, not again!
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Old Mon Jan 10, 2011, 07:11pm
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Nitpick: I believe the 4th quarter ended when try ended, which was when the ball passed completely through the ring and net.
Hard to believe some of the extraneous BS we're discussing in this thread.

Zoochy wrote, "A1 scores a basket just as time expires to tie the game."

Based on that, the try ending and the horn sounding were simultanoeus. Therefore, the T obviously came after the horn.
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Last I saw of him, he was headed out to smack some jacka...errrr, "donkey" right between the eyes.
Wonder if Jurassic Referee looks like this?

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