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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 05:03pm
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jeffpea, what are your views on this play?

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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 05:32pm
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Interesting. Didn't notice the defender's little hop-step to the side in the first take. But it took him more into harm's way, no doubt.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 05:42pm
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Mr Kellog needs to know the difference between NCAA - W and NCAA - M's interpretation of the infamous BLARGE!!! Although in BOTH cases, I am sure there would be a cell phone message waiting from the "Powers That Be'!!!

I think C had a better look at that play.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 05:45pm
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I think C had a better look at that play.
The play was entirely in the C's primary but I think the Lead got the right call.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 06:00pm
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The play was entirely in the C's primary but I think the Lead got the right call.
Block because the secondary defender was under the basket?
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 06:02pm
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Block because the secondary defender was under the basket?
Just wanted to note that this play happened before the rule change for secondary defenders attempting to take a charge.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 11:37pm
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Just wanted to note that this play happened before the rule change for secondary defenders attempting to take a charge.
Gotcha. I was wondering if that was it because I couldn't see anything else that would make this a block.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 06:44pm
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The play was entirely in the C's primary but I think the Lead got the right call.
Respectfully disagree...PC all the way
You're not one of those "He was moving" kind of guys, so what convinces you to call a block?
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 06:48pm
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The defender for VA Tech established LGP and slid to his right to maintain it and took the hit in the torso from the offensive player who was not airborne. PC all the way.
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Old Thu Dec 16, 2010, 11:44am
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The defender for VA Tech established LGP and slid to his right to maintain it and took the hit in the torso from the offensive player who was not airborne. PC all the way.
+1 -- putting away my plumber's kit now ...
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Old Thu Dec 16, 2010, 05:02pm
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Respectfully disagree...PC all the way
You're not one of those "He was moving" kind of guys, so what convinces you to call a block?
I've called plenty of PC fouls when the defensive player was moving. IMO Washington never established LGP on the offensive player and the collision occurred when Washington was moving laterally into A1 path.
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Old Thu Dec 16, 2010, 05:58pm
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Assuming No Airborne Shooter ...

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The collision occurred when Washington was moving laterally into A1 path.
And there is something illegal about this?

We've been told that (assuming a non-calculus background) there are eight directions that the defender can move in a situation like this (again, assuming no airborne shooter): forward, backward, right, left, forward right, forward left, backward right, and backward left. Only three of these movements are illegal, and would result in a defensive blocking foul. The other five movements by the defensive player would result in a player control foul.

Now please don't make me take out my protractor.
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Old Thu Dec 16, 2010, 08:12pm
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I've called plenty of PC fouls when the defensive player was moving. IMO Washington never established LGP on the offensive player and the collision occurred when Washington was moving laterally into A1 path.
I'm curious: which of the requirements of 4-23-2 haven't been met?
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Old Thu Dec 16, 2010, 08:13pm
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I've called plenty of PC fouls when the defensive player was moving. IMO Washington never established LGP on the offensive player and the collision occurred when Washington was moving laterally into A1 path.
Really?

B5 (just to give him a normal label) was directly in the line of A1's established line of travel when A1 was jut stepping past the 3-point line. A1 came nearly straight down the outside of the right lane line directly at B5. As A1 veered slightly towards the lane, B5 shifted to stay in that line. This one is not even close. B5 was in LGP for several steps. In fact, he had about as much LGP is possible.

Even the body language of lead, after the player was called, tells you he thinks he got it wrong. He's tugging on his pants and waiving for his partners to get the ball in. He just want's to get the ball back in play to get everyone to forget about it.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 06:54pm
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Interesting. Didn't notice the defender's little hop-step to the side
What has that to do with the price of eggs?
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