Coach was an official

[Raymond]

^^^MTD

Was Ernie Shavers around when you grew up?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

^^^MTD

Was Ernie Shavers around when you grew up?

Yes. He played grew up in Leavittsburg Township near Warren, Ohio. He played football for Leavittsburg H.S., graduating from there in 1963, I think. Leavittsburg H.S. (now LaBrae H.S., Leavttsburg Local School Dist. and Braceville (Braceville H.S.) Local School Dist. merged after I graduated from H.S.) and now LaBrea H.S. are still in the same league my H.S. is in.

I met him just once at the annual Youngstown Italian-American Banquet in 1978. When he made a fist, it was like having a brick on the end of his arm. There was a reason that Ali and Foreman said he was the hardest hitting heavyweight they had ever fought and it was those bricks on the end of his arms. LOL

MTD, Sr.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

For those of you who do not know, I graduated from H.S. in 1969. .....MTD, Sr.

OK - now it's official. I'm older than you (probably). I graduated from college in 1969, although I was only 20. I graduated HS in '65 (1965, not 1865) when I was 16. I was the youngest in a graduating class of 712. I started HS when I was 12.

BTW, MTD - who are the most notable graduates (in the world of sport) from your HS (any year). Mine would be Jerry Colangelo and Jim Bouton.

[Terrance "TJ"]

If I had coached (which was a plan a few years back), my players would have been instructed towards being respectful towards the officials. I grew up with my dad being a football ref. My first season competing in any sport, I was taught to not disrespect the refs. Since I didn't go on to become a coach, I naturally went to ref'ing. I absolutely love the game of basketball and, as stated above, grew up with a ref as a dad.

Now, I'll echo those saying this, it all depends on that one individual. They can be good at both, one or the other, or neither. My association has a football coach, a school's AD, a volleyball coach (our president), a track coach, and several teachers that officiate. All are respected and experienced in officiating.

[26 Year Gap]

What I have found is that if the coach is respectful, most, if not all of the players are respectful. If the coach is a whiner, the players for the most part are whiners. If the coach is a belligerent, then some of the players are as well. And some are still at the whiny stage.

My game tonight features a coach in the middle category. I have never seen the other coach. I will tell you that the coach never is quoted in the paper whining about calls. His players played hard. His players didn't execute, but would improve in those areas with time. His players did not convert free throws. The other team made some plays.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

OK - now it's official. I'm older than you (probably). I graduated from college in 1969, although I was only 20. I graduated HS in '65 (1965, not 1865) when I was 16. I was the youngest in a graduating class of 712. I started HS when I was 12.

BTW, MTD - who are the most notable graduates (in the world of sport) from your HS (any year). Mine would be Jerry Colangelo and Jim Bouton.

Mark:

None.

MTD, Sr.

[RobbyinTN]

I coached Middle School girl's basketball for a couple of years. I was a decent coach but not great - had a winning season each year but a lot fo that had to do with the lack of playing good teams . I started officiating after that and found out that while I understood basketball as far as setting plays, coaching, etc., I had LOTS to learn as an official. I now think I am a much better official than I ever was a coach and certainly enjoy it MUCH better.

As far as a coach announcing to me that he used to be an official, I simply tell him that tonight you are coaching and I am officiating. I will let you do your job without me commenting and I would appreciate you giving me the same courtesy.

Robby