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Fouling airborne shooter when ball is dead... ?
Per 4-19-1: A personal foul also includes contact by or on an airborne shooter when the ball is dead.
So, if the airborne shooter is considered to be in the act of shooting and has released (or tapped) the ball for a try but has not returned to the floor, could someone please give me an example of a foul occuring on an airborne shooter when the ball is dead ? Another foul elsewhere ? But, if the ball is dead then why and how do points count if the airborne shooter's try goes in the goal ? That seems to conflict with the pedestrian definition of "dead". I feel the answer is going to be a "Duh... of course" or "I'll know it when I see it" type answer, but right now it is eluding me. Thanks, Paul
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Specifically, I was thinking about a dunk with traffic under the basket which leaves the shooter hanging on the rim to prevent injury to himself... and while he is hanging he is fouled. In this new scenario, would you call a shooting foul based on the definition that the shooter has yet to return to the floor, albeit hanging on rim for a second or two after the made basket? Thanks, Paul
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Although I've never seen it called, there could be an elbow violation on the offense while the try is in the air. This causes the ball to become dead, however, the shooter has not yet returned to the floor.
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I think this is one of the questions I missed on the exam. Would you, or anyone, be so kinds as to cite where this is covered in the rule book?
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There is no case play exactly like the one Scrapper mentions, afaik.
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That's actually what I was looking for. Rules book is packed in the bag in the car so don't have a chance to look at it right now. Thanks,
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A1 jumps and tips the ball toward Team A's basket. While A1 is still airborne, B1 makes contact with the ball while the ball is in the cylinder, immediately after B1 touches the ball and before A1 returns to the floor, B2 fouls A1 on his arm. MTD, Sr.
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9.13.1 The ball has been released on a field goal try or tap by A1 towards A's basket. A2 excessively swings arms or elbows without contacting an opponent. The ball goes through the basket.
RULING: The official will sound the whistle immediately for a violation. The ball is dead, the goal is not scored.
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B2 excessively swings elbows after A1 has released the ball on a field goal try. The ball becomes dead immediately. True or False. I answered False but did not find the exact rules citation. |
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Unless something has changed, I believe that caseplay explains it well.
Ohh B2? Count the bucket & A's ball at the spot nearest the violation.
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