Illegal Throw-In After Made Basket

[JohnDorian37]

Another question that's been on my mind--

Team A scores a basket, and B has an endline throw-in. B1 retrieves the ball while it is still in bounds (after it has gone through the basket) and passes/dribbles up the court (without throwing it in from OOB). Is this a violation (A ball underneath) or is it just whistled dead and team B instructed to make a proper throw-in?

What if B1 has one foot OOB and one foot in when he throws it in? What if he has one foot OOB and one in the air?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by JohnDorian37

Another question that's been on my mind--

Team A scores a basket, and B has an endline throw-in. B1 retrieves the ball while it is still in bounds (after it has gone through the basket) and passes/dribbles up the court (without throwing it in from OOB). Is this a violation (A ball underneath) or is it just whistled dead and team B instructed to make a proper throw-in?

It would be a violation after five seconds.

What if B1 has one foot OOB and one foot in when he throws it in?

That's an inbound violation.

What if he has one foot OOB and one in the air?

Then he's legally OOB and there's no violation.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

It would be a violation after five seconds

Pretty sure that you don't have to wait 5 seconds. A casebook play came out a couple of year ago that said it's a violation once it's obvious that the team won't be throwing the ball in.

[APG]

Originally Posted by JohnDorian37

Another question that's been on my mind--

Team A scores a basket, and B has an endline throw-in. B1 retrieves the ball while it is still in bounds (after it has gone through the basket) and passes/dribbles up the court (without throwing it in from OOB). Is this a violation (A ball underneath) or is it just whistled dead and team B instructed to make a proper throw-in?

What if B1 has one foot OOB and one foot in when he throws it in? What if he has one foot OOB and one in the air?

Violation when it's obvious that Team B isn't going to be throwing the ball in.

Also if B1 has one foot out of bounds and one foot inbounds, then it's a violation. If B1 has one foot out of bounds and the other in the air, then a legal throw-in.

[JohnDorian37]

So if they don't throw it in and start moving down the court, just count 5 seconds and then call a violation? What if other activity (e.g. a foul, a score) has occurred?

[APG]

Originally Posted by JohnDorian37

So if they don't throw it in and start moving down the court, just count 5 seconds and then call a violation? What if other activity (e.g. a foul, a score) has occurred?

Don't wait five seconds. Once you realize that Team B won't be throwing the ball in, call the violation. It'll be obvious when Team B won't be throwing the ball in.

[grunewar]

Last night G JV Scrimmage. A1 scores. A2 picks up the ball while it's out of bounds and starts running the endline to inbound the ball. Me = TWEET!

Delay of Game violation.

All I could think of is she must have been confused from practices.

Funny thing was no one from B was really protesting or trying to get the ball from her.......start of a new season. Shrug.

[APG]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Last night G JV Scrimmage. A1 scores. A2 picks up the ball while it's out of bounds and starts running the endline to inbound the ball. Me = TWEET!

Delay of Game violation.

All I could think of is she must have been confused from practices.

Funny thing was no one from B was really protesting or trying to get the ball from her.......start of a new season. Shrug.

Is a delay of game warning the right call here? I don't know if I'd call it especially if Team B wasn't going for the ball. I'd just blow my whistle and reset the throw-in for Team B.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JohnDorian37

1) Team A scores a basket, and B has an endline throw-in. B1 retrieves the ball while it is still in bounds (after it has gone through the basket) and passes/dribbles up the court (without throwing it in from OOB). Is this a violation (A ball underneath) or is it just whistled dead and team B instructed to make a proper throw-in?

2) What if B1 has one foot OOB and one foot in when he throws it in?

3) What if he has one foot OOB and one in the air?

1) Violation as per NFHS rule 9-2-2

2) Violation as per NFHS rule 9-2-2

3) Legal. The thrower was OOB by rule..4-35-1(a).