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Old Fri Nov 19, 2010, 10:58pm
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A1 dribbles toward her basket, shoots, but the ball hits the side of the backboard and comes right back to her. She then dribbles around a little.
Is this a double dribble violation?
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A1 dribbles toward her basket, shoots, but the ball hits the side of the backboard and comes right back to her. She then dribbles around a little.
Is this a double dribble violation?
Easy answer, NO. Place this action at the opponent's backboard and we got a headscratcher..
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Easy answer, NO. Place this action at the opponent's backboard and we got a headscratcher..
Do you normally scratch your head on violations?
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Old Sat Nov 20, 2010, 07:42am
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Easy answer, NO. Place this action at the opponent's backboard and we got a headscratcher..
Case book play 4.15.4SitC(a)
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Coaches and players are often confused, perhaps in part b/c this is a violation in the NBA, which only permits a player to rebound his own shot if it touches the rim.

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A1 dribbles toward her basket, shoots, but the ball hits the side of the backboard and comes right back to her. She then dribbles around a little.
Is this a double dribble violation?
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Old Sat Nov 20, 2010, 06:45pm
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Coaches and players are often confused, perhaps in part b/c this is a violation in the NBA, which only permits a player to rebound his own shot if it touches the rim.

As much as they cry on this play, X 10 for airballs.
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Old Sat Nov 20, 2010, 09:27pm
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Coaches and players are often confused, perhaps in part b/c this is a violation in the NBA, which only permits a player to rebound his own shot if it touches the rim.
Incorrect. A player can retrieve the ball if it hits the backboard or rim.

NBA Casebook 2010-2011

9. Player A1 passes the ball and it hits his backboard. May Player A1 be the first to touch the ball?

Yes. A player may be the first to touch his own pass if the ball touches
his basket ring, backboard or another player.

RULE 10 - SECTION XIII - g
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Old Tue Nov 23, 2010, 01:34am
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Incorrect. A player can retrieve the ball if it hits the backboard or rim.

NBA Casebook 2010-2011

9. Player A1 passes the ball and it hits his backboard. May Player A1 be the first to touch the ball?

Yes. A player may be the first to touch his own pass if the ball touches
his basket ring, backboard or another player.

RULE 10 - SECTION XIII - g
Is this the same for NFHS? I had this play in a varsity boys high school game. Player attempted a pass to a player who was cutting - the ball was a bit high and hit the backboard, the passer quickly reacted, caught off the board and then made a dribble a scored.

This was a head scratcher to me. I was working with two college officials and they had nothing.
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Is this the same for NFHS? I had this play in a varsity boys high school game. Player attempted a pass to a player who was cutting - the ball was a bit high and hit the backboard, the passer quickly reacted, caught off the board and then made a dribble a scored.

This was a head scratcher to me. I was working with two college officials and they had nothing.
As cited in NFHS case book play 4.15.Sit.C(c), it's a legal play as long as you rule that it's a try. And unless you can read minds, the accepted call by all officials...oh....forever.... has been to always rule that it was an attempted try. That's why your college official partners had nothing on the play. No normal, sane official would rule it as being a pass when there is even the tiniest doubt that it might have been a try. And as I said, unless you can read minds there HAS to be that little bit of doubt there.

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Jurassic Referee .... I appreciate your detailed answer.

In this particular play, there was little no doubt it was not a pass

A1 was trying to connect with A2 who had slipped behind the defender. A1 never jumped and made the throw with two hands over the top of his head.

In accordance to NFHS rules, this would be illegal, because it was not a try? What would be the call?

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Jurassic Referee .... I appreciate your detailed answer.

In this particular play, there was little no doubt it was not a pass

A1 was trying to connect with A2 who had slipped behind the defender. A1 never jumped and made the throw with two hands over the top of his head.

In accordance to NFHS rules, this would be illegal, because it was not a try? What would be the call?

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My call would be nothing; because I'm not going to be the only guy who makes that call. The accepted call is to rule this a try and play on.
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In this particular play, there was little no doubt it was not a pass
Huh?

In any event -- play on if the ball hits the team's backboard.

If it hits the opponent's backboard, that's a different story.
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Huh?

In any event -- play on if the ball hits the team's backboard.

If it hits the opponent's backboard, that's a different story.
yup.... bad pass = bad shot I got nuthin
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