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Old Mon Nov 01, 2010, 11:11pm
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You're the only one who claims the case play in question doesn't say what it says; which is that once the two officials communicate their opposing preliminary signals, all further communication is relegated to determining how "point of interruption" applies to the particular situation.
The case play in question does not mention signals, preliminary, opposing, or any other kind. It does not say the two officials should or should not communicate with each other before reporting one or more calls. Above all, the word call is not defined in any book. Nothing in any book says that any signal, preliminary or any other kind, obligates any official to make or report any call.

These are facts of the case. They are undisputed.*


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Old Tue Nov 02, 2010, 06:43am
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The case play in question does not mention signals, preliminary, opposing, or any other kind. It does not say the two officials should or should not communicate with each other before reporting one or more calls. Above all, the word call is not defined in any book. Nothing in any book says that any signal, preliminary or any other kind, obligates any official to make or report any call.
And yet every single veteran, interpreter, assigner, evaluator, etc., I have talked to on line and in person sees it the same way I do; as does every single person on this board except for you.

I'm still not sure what you think the case play refers to. Do you think it's in place for obstinant officials? Do you think it's in place for the once in a million call where two officials actually report their fouls without knowledge of the other? Is there another option?

It's not like you're arguing whether it's a good rule/policy; you're arguing the actual rule itself. I'm not even that obstinant.
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Old Tue Nov 02, 2010, 01:04pm
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And yet every single veteran, interpreter, assigner, evaluator, etc., I have talked to on line and in person sees it the same way I do; as does every single person on this board except for you.
But why? Read the above, undisputed facts again and tell me where I am wrong.

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I'm still not sure what you think the case play refers to. Do you think it's in place for obstinate officials? Do you think it's in place for the once in a million call where two officials actually report their fouls without knowledge of the other? Is there another option?
That about covers it.

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It's not like you're arguing whether it's a good rule/policy; you're arguing the actual rule itself.
Nobody thinks it's a good rule, do they? I have no problem with the rule,
4-19-8. As I read it, it is virtually impossible for a play to happen which would result in this godforsaken case play.
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Old Tue Nov 02, 2010, 03:32pm
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So which is it?
Which is what?
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Old Tue Nov 02, 2010, 06:00pm
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Which is what?
Was the case play written for obstinant officials?
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Old Tue Nov 02, 2010, 08:07pm
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Was the case play written for obstinant officials?
I said that it would cover both situations, but I really couldn't see where it covered anything else.
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