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Old Sun Sep 19, 2010, 10:09am
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Come on Tom, we all know at the HS level that table crew compentency varies GREATLY.

It's pretty simple for me:
  • Table hits horns, I use raised hand but no whistle from me
  • Table doesn't hit horn and I have eye contact with my partner I use voice and raised hand
  • Table doesn't hit horn and I DON'T have eye contact with my partner then I use whistle and raised hand

I really don't see what's the big deal though.
I think this is a good way of doing it.

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It ain't a big deal. You do what your local association tells you to do. That includes one hand vs. two hand reporting also. And if you're not sure, you ask.
...and they will be asking me.
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Old Mon Sep 20, 2010, 08:55pm
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Page 41:
F. The official beckoning the substitutes should:
1. Ensure that it is appropriate to beckon substitutes (i.e., the ball is not
live, fellow official needs to report a foul).
2. Sound his/her whistle, raise an open hand.
3. Motion for the substitutes to enter the court.
4. Keep the other hand raised (stop-clock signal) until the substitution(s)
is completed and play may begin.


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G. The official beckoning the substitutes should:
1. Ensure that it is appropriate to beckon substitutes (i.e., the ball is not
live, fellow official needs to report a foul).
2. Sound his/her whistle, raise an open hand.
3. Motion for the substitutes to enter the court.
4. Keep the other hand raised (stop-clock signal) until the substitution(s)
is completed and play may begin.

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
Come on Tom, we all know at the HS level that table crew compentency varies GREATLY.

It's pretty simple for me:
  • Table hits horns, I use raised hand but no whistle from me
  • Table doesn't hit horn and I have eye contact with my partner I use voice and raised hand
  • Table doesn't hit horn and I DON'T have eye contact with my partner then I use whistle and raised hand

I really don't see what's the big deal though.


I think this is a good way of doing it.

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
It ain't a big deal. You do what your local association tells you to do. That includes one hand vs. two hand reporting also. And if you're not sure, you ask.

...and they will be asking me.
Your brethren up North have agreed to teach to blow the whistle when bringing in subs just as stated in the NFHS manual. It would be appreciated if you would teach it that way in the South too, so that we are all on the same page when it comes time to work together at the State Tournament.
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Old Tue Sep 21, 2010, 06:40am
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Your brethren up North have agreed to teach to blow the whistle when bringing in subs just as stated in the NFHS manual. It would be appreciated if you would teach it that way in the South too, so that we are all on the same page when it comes time to work together at the State Tournament.
Any conflict, then someone at the state level should be making the decision as to what procedure to use. It should be uniform, but if the state decides to not follow the manual, then that's the way it is.
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Old Tue Sep 21, 2010, 10:06am
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Your brethren up North have agreed to teach to blow the whistle when bringing in subs just as stated in the NFHS manual. It would be appreciated if you would teach it that way in the South too, so that we are all on the same page when it comes time to work together at the State Tournament.
Can you send me an email or empty some space so I can PM you?
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Old Tue Sep 21, 2010, 10:15am
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I'm still curious, why is a whistle necessary to get your partners attention when many people have harped on making eye contact. If official do what they are saying they do, why have a whistle to get your partner's attention?
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Old Tue Sep 21, 2010, 12:24pm
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I'm still curious, why is a whistle necessary to get your partners attention when many people have harped on making eye contact. If official do what they are saying they do, why have a whistle to get your partner's attention?
I do not think it is necessary. Which is why I do not do it all the time. Can it be a useful tool? Of course. And no I do not follow NF mechanics and do not feel everything the NF comes up with is necessary. I feel it is an option and can be used if you need to. But many times good partners do not need a whistle at all.

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