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Back to my point. I guess I am unclear as to how the player can end the dribble while in the air. What I picture is the player taking his last dribble and jumping to pass or shoot or finish his move with his jump stop or take his steps to the basket. I can't really picture a player dribbling while in the air. I guess in theory this is possible. edit; Just thought of this. About one year ago, I was playing in a pick-up game. Shot went up and player A rebounded and while still in the air, he dribbled the ball and then caught it and then landed. No idea why he did this but it fits perfectly in this post and is legal and now the player can pivot using either foot. I actually got into an argument with another player about this, because it looked so weird the other player said it was a travel and he could not come down with ball. I argued that he could. Now, if this ever occurs in a game I am reffing, I know he can come down with the ball and pivot with either foot ![]() I admit being wrong but it is a very weird play. Last edited by hoopguy; Thu Sep 09, 2010 at 11:47am. |
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Rule 4-44-2(b) tells you what to call when a player ends a dribble while having one foot on the floor. If you forget about what a "jump stop" is supposed to be and simply learn those rules, you'll never have a problem getting the call right. AllPurposeGamer gave you the correct answers. |
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Actually by rule, I believe u would be wrong on that ruling. If player A attempts a dribble while in air then "by rule" he has traveled. U cannot dribble without having a pivot foot.
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The REAL rule is that you can't start a dribble after lifting the pivot foot. If you've not yet established a pivot foot, you havn't lifted it. So, an airborne player who starts a dribble has only traveled if they had previously been on the floor while in control of the ball AND had established a pivot foot (which might not always be the case). In this case, the player caught the ball in the air, then started the dribble, then landed....LEGAL.
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NFHS casebook play 4.15.1SitA(b) While rebounding, A1 touches the ball while trying to gain control, after which A1 catches the ball and then pushes the ball to the floor to begin a dribble. RULING: Legal. The dribble does not start until A1 has gained control. Legal under NCAA rules also. Camron gave the correct rationale. Think of the play where A1 passes to A2 and A2 tips the ball to the floor without gaining possession and then dribbles away. A2 never established a pivot foot. Would you really call this traveling? ![]() Last edited by Jurassic Referee; Thu Sep 09, 2010 at 03:38pm. |
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BTW, the player you were arguing with in your wreck league was correct.
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