Ejection ...

[tref]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

2a. I follow the prescribed mechanic and tell my partner that #11 has committed thier 5th foul.
2b. My partner informs coach of the 5th foul.

Follow the mechanics

That's not applicable 'round here Only the cowardly wants their partner to finish their business

And even though I'm on my rules, I'm not a rulebook official! Its a people business & that aint taught in no rulebook... gotta be born with it OR learn to do it.

[icallfouls]

Originally Posted by tref

That's not applicable 'round here Only the cowardly wants their partner to finish their business

And even though I'm on my rules, I'm not a rulebook official! Its a people business & that aint taught in no rulebook... gotta be born with it OR learn to do it.

While it may be customary to finish what you started in your back yard, which I am fine with, the situation might not have evolved into an ejection by using the recommended mechanic.

I know of assignors that would go back to the official and asked why the mechanic was not followed, there is a reason for them. But you are not a Rule Book official, yet you know the rules ...

The OP was looking for viable options, and this is just one.

Yes, officiating is a people business, there are just a lot of stoopid people...they are called coaches

[tref]

Originally Posted by Kingsman1288

You still need to inform the coach that 11 has 5 fouls.

"Is the sub for 11, he has 5."

Originally Posted by Kingsman1288

While the sub may well be for 11, the coach may not be aware he has 5 fouls.

Why not? Does he not understand English? Am I doing a FIBA game? Jeeezzz

"Is the sub for 11, he has 5."

Originally Posted by Kingsman1288

Later on in the game he may try to insert 11 back into the game not knowing he has 5 fouls, and when 11 is not allowed back in because of his fouling out, the coach is going to be even more mad that you didn't let him know his player had 5. That will probably lead to a bigger confrontation than the one you're trying to avoid with him fouling out. Suck it up, and just tell the coach he has 5. JMO

Yeah okay... he brings that player back AFTER I tell him he has 5 & it becomes all too easy! WHACK!
BTW, nowadays the player would tell the coach he is not going back in the game with 20 seconds left down by 30+ :-)

Originally Posted by icallfouls

While it may be customary to finish what you started in your back yard, which I am fine with, the situation might not have evolved into an ejection by using the recommended mechanic.

I know of assignors that would go back to the official and asked why the mechanic was not followed, there is a reason for them. But you are not a Rule Book official, yet you know the rules ...

For the last time, we dont get together on players fouling out! Only atypical situations.


Hmmmm I guess this is what the Twilight Zone feels like?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by tref

Only the cowardly wants their partner to finish their business

That's one of the stupidest comments I have read on this board in a long time. So you are a "people person" but can't figure out that switching places is a valid way to calm a volatile situation? That's not much of a "people person". That's more of an "it's all about me person".

And the "Is the sub for 11, he has 5" statement is neither the proper way to handle the situation nor a very good way to communicate. A possible scenario:

tref: "Is the sub for #11, he has 5?"

coach: "What? That kid hasn't even been in the game yet?"

tref: "No, no, no, Coach. Number 11 has 5 fouls and I was wondering if the sub was coming in for number 11."

Coach: "Why didn't you just say that number 11 had five fouls! That's pretty much par for the course with the way you have been calling this game tonight."

Great game management there.

[tref]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

That's one of the stupidest comments I have read on this board in a long time. So you are a "people person" but can't figure out that switching places is a valid way to calm a volatile situation? That's not much of a "people person". That's more of an "it's all about me person".

Once again, WE DONT DO THAT HERE on 5th fouls! Handle your own business!! In the OP there was nothing volatile going on...
I dont have to try to outshine my partners, I illuminate naturally. Thats why I clocked in & got instant gratification. No 10+ years to get the big one over here. So get yours because I'm getting mine

Originally Posted by rockyroad

And the "Is the sub for 11, he has 5" statement is neither the proper way to handle the situation nor a very good way to communicate. A possible scenario:

tref: "Is the sub for #11, he has 5?"

coach: "What? That kid hasn't even been in the game yet?"

tref: "No, no, no, Coach. Number 11 has 5 fouls and I was wondering if the sub was coming in for number 11."

Coach: "Why didn't you just say that number 11 had five fouls! That's pretty much par for the course with the way you have been calling this game tonight."

Great game management there.

When I say that & it's rare that I call 5th fouls, but when I do my body language communicates to the HC exactly who I'm talking about.

Greatly appreciate your negative scenario! Thanks for playing! Now as you were

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by tref

Once again, WE DONT DO THAT HERE on 5th fouls! Handle your own business!! In the OP there was nothing volatile going on...
I dont have to try to outshine my partners, I illuminate naturally. Thats why I clocked in & got instant gratification. No 10+ years to get the big one over here. So get yours because I'm getting mine



When I say that & it's rare that I call 5th fouls, but when I do my body language communicates to the HC exactly who I'm talking about.

Greatly appreciate your negative scenario! Thanks for playing! Now as you were

So, let me get this straight - the reason you do it your way is because you "illuminate naturally", you clock in and get instant gratification, you're getting yours, and you do this all by communicating through body language?

Oh, ok.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by tref

Once again, WE DONT DO THAT HERE on 5th fouls! Handle your own business!! In the OP there was nothing volatile going on...
I dont have to try to outshine my partners, I illuminate naturally. Thats why I clocked in & got instant gratification. No 10+ years to get the big one over here. So get yours because I'm getting mine

We are so close to that Southern California reference I mentioned in another thread, I can almost taste it.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Welpe

We are so close to that Southern California reference I mentioned in another thread, I can almost taste it.

This particular poster is the pride of CO, not CA. The resemblance sureashell is there though, isn't it? Uncanny as hell.

[tref]

Actually it will be TX in a couple of months...

[fiasco]

tref,

Don't worry about Jurassic Ref.This is just his schtick. He's an old timer who gets his kicks from finding one sentence or phrase he can take out of context in order to paint you in a bad light. It's like some sort of pathetic game he likes to play to make himself feel superior.

Those of us who actually know how to look at things in context know what you were trying to say with your "no reason" comment. I like your solution.

[tref]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

So, let me get this straight - the reason you do it your way is because you "illuminate naturally", you clock in and get instant gratification, you're getting yours, and you do this all by communicating through body language?

Oh, ok.

Nah, the reason I do it THAT way (not MY way) is because our 3 big dogs do it that way & it works for me as well! I prefer to copy people at a level I desire to work at vs. people stuck at a level I'm already at.
So basically, if you're not the bank teller... dont tell me nothing!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by tref

Nah, the reason I do it THAT way (not MY way) is because our 3 big dogs do it that way & it works for me as well! I prefer to copy people at a level I desire to work at vs. people stuck at a level I'm already at.
So basically, if you're not the bank teller... dont tell me nothing!

Tref,you're not even close to the levels that M&M and rockyroad have already worked. And from your posting history, I doubt very much that you ever will get to those levels. When you've done a college Final Four(as one of the guys that you just dumped on has), feel free then to come back and talk down to everybody here.

It's a waste of time telling you anything.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Tref,you're not even close to the levels that M&M and rockyroad have already worked. And from your posting history, I doubt very much that you ever will get to those levels. When you've done a college Final Four(as one of the guys that you just dumped on has), feel free then to come back and talk down to everybody here.

It's a waste of time telling you anything.

1. Gracias!

2. I've NEVER dumped on anyone unless they dumped 1st.

3. Billy understood what I was saying loooong ago, but you & your illiterate computer goons came after me for expressing MY thoughts. Am I not to defend my position? (rhetorical question).

4. Of course it's a waste, for YOU arent the bank teller!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

That's one of the stupidest comments I have read on this board in a long time. So you are a "people person" but can't figure out that switching places is a valid way to calm a volatile situation? That's not much of a "people person". That's more of an "it's all about me person".

And the "Is the sub for 11, he has 5" statement is neither the proper way to handle the situation nor a very good way to communicate. A possible scenario:

tref: "Is the sub for #11, he has 5?"

coach: "What? That kid hasn't even been in the game yet?"

tref: "No, no, no, Coach. Number 11 has 5 fouls and I was wondering if the sub was coming in for number 11."

Coach: "Why didn't you just say that number 11 had five fouls! That's pretty much par for the course with the way you have been calling this game tonight."

Great game management there.

I think he was being sarcastic and referencing a prior thread.