Summer Ball - all this fun and I get paid too?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by DLH17

no, i'm only suggesting he blow off a ridiculous (and apparently venomous) directive from a fellow (anonymous) official (jurassic ref) to drop out of the fraternity for posting something relatively benign about his approach to handling coaches with technical fouls.

And you also think that it's "relatively benign" to advocate treating identical acts from different coaches completely differently depending on the past history of the individual coach? One act deserves a "T" because it came from a coach that gave you a hard time in the past.... but an identical act from a different coach is perfectly OK?

Methinks you also should be sitting beside the Mutant up in the stands. You're two of a kind ...and neither one of you gets it. Personally, I wouldn't want to share a court with either of you.

Real officials don't play favorites. And real officials actually do call it both ways.

JMRVO.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And you also think that it's "relatively benign" to advocate treating identical acts from different coaches completely differently depending on the past history of the individual coach? One act deserves a "T" because it came from a coach that gave you a hard time in the past.... but an identical act from a different coach is perfectly OK?

Methinks you also should be sitting beside the Mutant up in the stands. You're two of a kind ...and neither one of you gets it. Personally, I wouldn't want to share a court with either of you.

Real officials don't play favorites. And real officials actually do call it both ways.

JMRVO.

Actually, you don't "get it". Your attempts at being a dictator towards posters you don't even know are laughable. Who really knows, mutantducky might actually be a quack, but if your strong armed, alienating style on this forum is any reflection of your demeanor amongst your peers, then I'm surprised anyone other than the old codgers that have learned to put up with you would ever want to take the court with you.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by DLH17

Actually, you don't "get it". Your attempts at being a dictator towards posters you don't even know are laughable. Who really knows, mutantducky might actually be a quack, but if your strong armed, alienating style on this forum is any reflection of your demeanor amongst your peers, then I'm surprised anyone other than the old codgers that have learned to put up with you would ever want to take the court with you.

Basketball officiating is not, above a certain level, about hugs and kisses. You run the game with confidence, or you're eaten alive. JR knows how to run a game smoothly. He doesn't need to know you. It's your prerogative not to get along with an alpha dog, but the content of what JR is telling you is, IMO, correct.

You know only the current, more nurturing JR -- you should have seen him back in the day!

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Basketball officiating is not, above a certain level, about hugs and kisses. You run the game with confidence, or you're eaten alive. JR knows how to run a game smoothly. He doesn't need to know you. It's your prerogative not to get along with an alpha dog, but the content of what JR is telling you is, IMO, correct.

You know only the current, more nurturing JR -- you should have seen him back in the day!

I'm not talking about how he chooses to run a game. I'll take your word for it that he's a stallion. However, what I am talking about his inability to constructively discuss a topic on the internet with a fellow official - even if that fellow official might come off as a bit of a turd like ducky i.e. that link to his discussion about yelling at officials as a fan.

Heck, if JR is going to take the time to respond to mutantducky at all (he must see some value in it or he wouldn't 'waste his time'), then why not post something of value instead of raking the guy? If for no other reason than to help out lurkers (and we know there are plenty of those) that may be reading his posts for the first time and are genuinely interested in the thread up and to that point.

Instead, he shows his a$$.

Just ridiculous.

[SWMOzebra]

Originally Posted by mbyron

You run the game with confidence, or you're eaten alive.

Amen to this!

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

What it comes down to is that an official's most important attribute is and will always be his integrity.

Double amen here! Preach it, brother! Can I get a "hell, yeah?"

Wait ... is this the "tent revival" forum?

M&M is right: consistency is incredibly important, regardless at which level you're fortunate enough to be calling. The higher up you go in officiating, the better being consistent serves you and the more closely it's scrutinized.

Regardless of your personal history with a coach or player, you'll find yourself miles and miles ahead by treating everyone the same ... which means like penalties for like actions.

[mutantducky]

I learned from the start here that some people will just throw hissy fits if you disagree with them so after a while I stopped caring what they thought. Even some posts from me and other posters that I thought were benign would result name calling.
Not a fan of total uniformity for refs which a few here seen to support. When I started officiating I saw refs rip into each other good-naturedly I think so yeah they are used to having thick skins but here not always on differences of opinions. I'm a ref and a FAN and I'll continue to be one and I won't be one of those dicks who yell and whine about all the calls.

But forums are about discussion and debate so eh, whatever. I try to learn here and have a little fun.

and to my critics the next time you hear booing from the stands that is from me. muhahahahahaha.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

I learned from the start here that some people will just throw hissy fits if you disagree with them so after a while I stopped caring what they thought.

That has not been my experience at all.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

I learned from the start here that some people will just throw hissy fits if you disagree with them

HEY - I resemble that remark.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SWMOzebra

Regardless of your personal history with a coach or player, you'll find yourself miles and miles ahead by treating everyone the same ... which means like penalties for like actions.

I believe in treating people with respect or the way you want to be treated, but not the same. We are all not the same so you should not be treated as such JMO.

Peace

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I believe in treating people with respect or the way you want to be treated, but not the same. We are all not the same so you should not be treated as such JMO.

Peace

Are you talking about how you treat different coaches/players and/or people in general....or both?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by DLH17

Are you talking about how you treat different coaches/players and/or people in general....or both?

I treat people in the games I officiate like I would have wanted or would want to be treated out of that world. It is all the same to me.

Peace