kick 'im while he's down

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

But consider this:
1. B1 dives for a loose ball near center court and doesn't get it.
2. The ball squirts towards B's basket.
3. A1 picks it up and heads back towards his basket, which takes him past B1 who has not yet stood up.
4. A1 runs towards B1 and just as B1 begins his attempt to rise, A1's foot clips B1 on the head.
5. The force of the contact knocks B1 flat to the floor.

Watchagot?

I gots a judgment to make.

The judgment is between no call if I decide the foot contact was incidental contact that didn't disadvantage B1, or a personal foul of some kind(PC, intentional or flagrant), dependant on reading intent of A1 and severity of contact.

Note though that this play is completely different than what we've been discussing. In the OP and other plays discussed, the player on the floor has been nowhere near the ball/play when the contact on him occurred. Thus, a different calling philosophy has to be employed imo.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Nope. Nor would I call a common foul if a player shoved his opponent at center court while a shot was in the air.

And that's exactly why I'd hesitate to call a common foul on a kick to a player on the floor if that player was nowhere near the play. I'd use the same calling criteria as used on the shove above---> incidental contact or intentional/flagrant foul.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And that's exactly why I'd hesitate to call a common foul on a kick to a player on the floor if that player was nowhere near the play. I'd use the same calling criteria as used on the shove above---> incidental contact or intentional/flagrant foul.

I wasn't reading that the play was no where near the player. For some reason, I had all that activity happening under the basket, or B1 somehow within range of at least attempting to make a play.