kick 'im while he's down

[Adam]

The only way situation 2 matters, in my opinion, is that I'd be less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. I wouldn't make the call in an effort to dump him. I'd also be inclined, based on the level of contact and whether he got the benefit of the doubt, to call it intentional rather than common (or team control).

Also, pull the trigger sooner on the T if he's giving you attitude on every call. Personally, if he gave me attitude the first call, he gets a quick chat with me; one way actually. If he gives me attitude on the second call, he gets his first T. That's, at most, three calls with attitude and you don't have to worry about him.

And if the league administrator has to be there to back your Ts, I'd think twice about the league.

[rsl]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The only way situation 2 matters, in my opinion, is that I'd be less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

This was my thought, but I didn't think about going with an intentional.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Also, pull the trigger sooner on the T if he's giving you attitude on every call.

Agreed. I should have addressed it sooner.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

And if the league administrator has to be there to back your Ts, I'd think twice about the league.

The phone call to the administrator and "backup" happened hours after the game. I didn't need any help at the time.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rsl

The phone call to the administrator and "backup" happened hours after the game. I didn't need any help at the time.

That's not what I meant, sorry. What I meant was, if the administrator won't have your back later unless he actually saw the play, then it's a problem. I'm not saying that's the case, but that was the impression I got from your post. IOW, if he hadn't been there, then the player's call may have worked somehow. Not sure that's the case, but....
I didn't mean to imply you somehow needed help on the court.

[mbyron]

I doubt very much that the contact to the head was accidental, however nonchalant it might have appeared. He knew he was stepping over an opponent and where his feet would hit if he dragged them.

Frankly, I could see a T here for unsporting conduct: walking over someone is intimidation. I would have at least an INT for this.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mbyron

I could see a T here for unsporting conduct: walking over someone is intimidation.

Be careful here. It's live ball contact. Unsporting? Certainly. But it's still a live ball, and I don't believe that you can call a technical foul for live ball contact. Team control or intentional? No problem. Technical? I'm not so sure.

[APG]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Be careful here. It's live ball contact. Unsporting? Certainly. But it's still a live ball, and I don't believe that you can call a technical foul for live ball contact. Team control or intentional? No problem. Technical? I'm not so sure.

I believe he was referring to the act of just stepping over an opponent sans contact.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I believe he was referring to the act of just stepping over an opponent sans contact.

Exactly. And if there's contact after the whistle, I have the option of ignoring it or calling a second T for dead ball contact.