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Old Wed Sep 16, 2009, 07:53am
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Another Kick question (free kick)

Fed Rules: On a free kick, the kick bounces over Rs head as hes running back to get the ball he possesses it at the 3 yard line and goes into the end zone but comes back out and is down at the 5 yard line. Is this the momentum exception or would this be a touchback?
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Old Wed Sep 16, 2009, 08:24am
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Deleting because I was wrong and don't want to confuse anyone.

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Old Wed Sep 16, 2009, 08:44am
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EXCEPTION: When a defensive player intercepts an opponent’s forward pass; intercepts
or recovers an opponent’s fumble or backward pass; or an R player catches or
recovers a scrimmage kick or free kick between his 5-yard line and the goal line, and
his original momentum carries him into the end zone where the ball is declared dead
in his team’s possession or it goes out of bounds in the end zone, the ball belongs
to the team in possession at the spot where the pass or fumble was inter cepted or
recovered or the kick was caught or recovered.

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Old Wed Sep 16, 2009, 09:04am
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Neither.

Momentum exception doesn't apply to free kicks, and it's not a touchback because the kick ended when R obtained possession outside of the endzone.

Simply put, this is nothing more than a tackle at the 5-yard line. 1st and 10 for R at the 5. Clock on snap.
The momentum exception does apply to free kicks and would have been R's ball at the 3 had he gone in the EZ (due to his original momentum) and the ball become dead. However, the kick ended at the 3 and he was allowed to run it back out of the EZ so it's R's ball at the 5.
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SGR, how long have you been a referee?
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Old Wed Sep 16, 2009, 10:15am
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Yes, we have momentum here. A kick possessed by a player is no longer a kick, so when the ball goes into the endzone, it can't be a touchback by that virtue.

The momentum spot is bean bagged where he gained possession. Had he stayed in the endzone, he would get the ball at the 3. Since he brought it out, it doesn't matter.
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Old Wed Sep 16, 2009, 10:47am
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Old Wed Sep 16, 2009, 11:39am
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SGR, how long have you been a referee?
Well, that's not necessary.

I made a mistake. Didn't have my rule book in front of me. Had a brain fart. I'll make sure I never make another mistake again in my entire life.
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Old Wed Sep 16, 2009, 11:43am
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Well, that's not necessary.

I made a mistake. Didn't have my rule book in front of me. Had a brain fart. I'll make sure I never make another mistake again in my entire life.
Be careful or he'll post 74 clips of buttblocks and tell us we all suck again.
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Be careful or he'll post 74 clips of buttblocks and tell us we all suck again.
Don't forget helping the runner!
That's never called.
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IG is never called by those sorry saps in stripes that refuse to talk to me on the sideline because I am only an assistant coach.

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Don't forget helping the runner!
That's never called.
Actually I saw it called in a DII college game last week. R took a touchdown away near the end of a game. didn't matter to final outcome but I felt, without being a very obvious "helping" R took away a consolation touchdown from a team that was not giving up...anyway. I have never called it...
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