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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 11:33am
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Private School boys conference semi'. HOME scores to go up 4 with about 3 seconds left, V calls TO. As players come back onto floor H sets up press, I let V know they can run the baseline and even make a nice signal, and tell H not to break the plane. Sure enough, V takes off on the baseline, H jumps over the line, then grabs the ball out of V's hand jumps up and down and yells "White Ball White Ball, he traveled". And as the story plays out V made both T's, then hit a tough 3 pt jumper to win it. I have known the H coach for years and we talked the next day and had a good laugh about it. He said he had told that player the same thing about reaching over and even heard ME tell him. The only thing I DIDN'T like was he didn't pick up the lunch tab!
What was the second "T" for?
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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 11:50am
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Going back to the original post and FIBA Rules, see rule 42.1 & 42.2.

Unsporting foul B2= 2FT and possession
T on A2 = 2FT and possession
T on Coach = 2FT and possession
T on Coach = 2FT and possession

The way I see it is like penalties cancel for unsporting and T on A2... Shoot 4 FT... Ball to B at Division Line.
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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 02:14pm
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Going back to the original post and FIBA Rules, see rule 42.1 & 42.2.

1. Unsporting foul B2= 2FT and possession
2. T on A2 = 2FT and possession
3. T on Coach = 2FT and possession
4. T on Coach = 2FT and possession

The way I see it is like penalties cancel for unsporting and T on A2... Shoot 4 FT... Ball to B at Division Line.
Since your speaking the metric tongue, I assume you're talking about metric rules, under which Panther is officiating. I forget if #1 and #2 above can "offset" or not, though.

In NFHS rules, they would not.
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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 02:32pm
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I think I can beat the dumb loss award... but I have to go to another sport to do so.

High School-aged timed tourney softball game. Champ game of the losers bracket ... winner will stay and have to win 2. Home team ahead 4-3, bottom of the 6th, a few minutes left. 1-2-3 inning might put us into the 7th inning, but just a couple of hits (or subs, or conferences, etc) would likely put us over.

1st batter walks into the box, looks at me and says, "Coach told me to stall - so I apologize in advance." Not knowing yet where this is leading, I just said - "Don't stall." and got ready for the pitch. 2 balls, and then the 3rd pitch - right down the middle - Strike. Batter steps out and says, "You've got to be Effing kidding me! Who the F do you think you are." I toss her, walk to the coach to get a sub. I see coach smiling and realize the EJ/argument is just what she wanted the player to do - her version of legal stalling. Coach argues a bit eventually ejects herself as well. I ask assistant coach for a sub...

They have no subs available. Game over - forfeit.

Oops... nice move coach.
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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 02:45pm
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Going back to the original post and FIBA Rules, see rule 42.1 & 42.2.

Unsporting foul B2= 2FT and possession
T on A2 = 2FT and possession
T on Coach = 2FT and possession
T on Coach = 2FT and possession

The way I see it is like penalties cancel for unsporting and T on A2... Shoot 4 FT... Ball to B at Division Line.
Right. All those fouls carry a "2FT and possession" penalty; it's not the fouls that "cancel each other", but the penalties. So there's no way that team A shoots free throws in this situation. Had B2's foul been a common foul with team penalty (bonus), it would have been different.

I'd have ejected A2 and team A's coach right away. HTBT for B2's foul; it's an easy U, might be D (flagrant in Fedspeak, disqualifying in FIBAspeak).

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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 05:52pm
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What was the second "T" for?
There was no second T. Didn't mean to confuse you hope this will help.
The Visiting teams player, who was properly selected by the Visiting teams coach to attempt the two foul shots which were awarded as result of actions by the HOME team resulting in the assessment of a technical foul, was successful in both attempts which increased the running and total score of the Visiting team by 2 additional points from their previous sum prior to the afore mentioned free throw attempts.
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The player made both free throws for the assesed technical foul.

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