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Old Mon May 31, 2010, 03:08pm
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By the NFHS rule set, we call that 10-6-4. A player cannot extend his arms (except vertically) that hinders an opponent's movement at the time of contact. It may not have been a hold in your case, but it sounds like illegal contact, at the very least.
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By the NFHS rule set, we call that 10-6-4. A player cannot extend his arms (except vertically) that hinders an opponent's movement at the time of contact. It may not have been a hold in your case, but it sounds like illegal contact, at the very least.
would this rule also be applicable to an offensive player dribbling the ball with non dribbling hand/arm extended (arm bar protecting space. arm does not extend outward, just protects)?
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would this rule also be applicable to an offensive player dribbling the ball with non dribbling hand/arm extended (arm bar protecting space. arm does not extend outward, just protects)?
I'm confused, is the arm extended or not? If it's extended and is preventing the defense from reaching a spot they would normally be able to reach, it's a foul.
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I'm confused, is the arm extended or not? If it's extended and is preventing the defense from reaching a spot they would normally be able to reach, it's a foul.
...provided there is contact. But I knew that's what you meant.
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...provided there is contact. But I knew that's what you meant.
If there's no contact, then nothing is "preventing" the defense from getting to the spot.
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If there's no contact, then nothing is "preventing" the defense from getting to the spot.
Ok, then we agree.

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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 02:47pm
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I'm confused, is the arm extended or not? If it's extended and is preventing the defense from reaching a spot they would normally be able to reach, it's a foul.
apparently, i am too.

i'm envisioning a point guard dribbling hard right over the division line while being closely guarded by a defender. the guard is dribbling with their right hand. their off hand isn't hanging limply at their side. it's extended to some degree for balance if nothing else. does that help a little?
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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 02:51pm
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apparently, i am too.

i'm envisioning a point guard dribbling hard right over the division line while being closely guarded by a defender. the guard is dribbling with their right hand. their off hand isn't hanging limply at their side. it's extended to some degree for balance if nothing else. does that help a little?
IMO FWIW, it's judgment. She can't use it as an arm bar to keep the defense away. If she needs it for balance, she might want to take up chess club or debate team or something.
OTOH, if the defense sees the arm and just gives up ground, it's nothing.
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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 02:54pm
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IMO FWIW, it's judgment. She can't use it as an arm bar to keep the defense away. If she needs it for balance, she might want to take up chess club or debate team or something.
OTOH, if the defense sees the arm and just gives up ground, it's nothing.
lol...understood

i see this a lot in girls hoops (which is prolly why you used gender in your answer, no?)
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